1914-S Barber Quarter - What do you think?

What are the expert opinions on this 1914-S Quarter? There's a little neck nick and some light abrasions in the right obverse field, but other than that...what do you guys think?

 

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VERY nice coin!!!

As a fan of key and semi-key dates, I would say that this coin is a beauty!!! I have to admit a slight dipping suspicion on ANY Barber coin that is bright white like this one, but it is not impossible that a coin could remain brilliant white for almost 100 years.

I would say that, if cleaned, it was done by someone who knew what they were doing and has not damaged the coin in any way. I would grade it a solid MS-64! The depth of strike could be better. Some of the obverse stars are incomplete and the arrows as well on the reverse, but otherwise a fabulous coin. The fields are amazingly free of dings and marks of virtually any kind. Maybe this is the way it was photographed. If the surfaces show more hits than the pic, a solid MS-63. A real keeper!

 

Yeah, it's most likely been dipped.

 

Nice coin I'D say MS-63-64 cleaned , but very nicely cleaned , JMO . though it might be the picture , I think cleaned because of uniform luster , and because 100 year old coins usually have some toning on them unless they were in bags or rolls & I don't think there are many rolls of semi key date Barbers floating around . Still a very beautiful coin that I would be proud to own .
rzage

 

The fields are amazingly clean. Kinda makes me wonder.

Slab it.

 

it looks amazing but if this was a coin from india i would not buy it most definitely cleaned but since its a barber very difficult to say based onthe pics can you give us a picture in ad ifferent light and as GD said weigh the coin?

 

Well, to be honest, if this was a coin from India I wouldn't buy it either.

 

Going back to a bazillion comments from yesterday's black hole (if yesterday ever existed):

1) Nicest '14 s that I have ever seen. My best is about a VF or so, I have to check.
2) Did you purchase from a reputable dealer? (insert hint here).
3) Surfaces look too funky to me (read: too perfect).

 

what i meant was it would have been body bagged if it was an indian coin based on what i am seeing in the pics

 

I'll get the weight as soon as I can and some different images.

 

The lack of striking on those two start is really odd. The coin does look overdipped, explaining the clean surfaces, but lack of luster.

 

I disagree, Bob. I don't think the coin looks overdipped at all. It looks AMAZINGLY clean, but IMHO the luster looks intact.

 

I agree with the comments here. Very nice coin, but it looks as if it were overdipped. When buying coins with this kind of detail(I've recently learned); it should have a cartwheel luster effect, where you see the light carwheeling around the coin. If the light reflection has a flat uniform look, it has been overdipped/cleaned, as it obviously does not have the original surface.

Nice looking coin though!

 

I know this may sound like a wierd request...

..but can we see a picture of the edge and also how thick is this coin?


oh and hi everybody!!

 

I don't know....I've always heard cartwheeling was caused by microscopic abrassions in the coin that refract light to give it that effect.
Guy~

 

I still haven't been able to weigh it just yet, but after examining it closely in hand and comparing with verified examples, it seems that weakness in those two stars isn't unheard of even in high-grades for this coin. Additionally, all the diagnostics match with authentic examples. My feeling after examining it carefully and comparing is that it's authentic, and I'll be sending it into NCS hopefully to be passed through to NGC, but with detail grading at least. Do you guys think NGC would slab it with the dipping it's had?

The thickness is right at 1mm it seems and the diameter is right on as well. I'll get the weight this week (I need to buy a gram scale).

For example, MS-67s with weakness in the right-hand star in particular:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=394&Lot_No=2407
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=380&Lot_No=5542

and even the Eliasberg example shows some weakness there:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=360&Lot_No=4168

Other examples:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=366&Lot_No=6632
http://www.helpmagician.net/auctpics/14s25c58.jpg
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=327&Lot_No=1259

It has definitely been dipped, and aside from some very light surface abrasions on the right of the obverse seen only at the right light angle, the fields and details are squeaky clean and smooth.

 

Probably not if there is no cartwheel effect , it was over dipped , and NGC & PCGS won't slab it . IMO
rzage