No way ancients coins are real!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by randygeki, Oct 24, 2019.

  1. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    If you were to show this person a pristine 542 million year old fossil trilobite, what would they say? The trilobite has been in the ground a lot longer than the coin has.

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  3. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Send him to "Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about Ancient Coins" at this URL:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/numis/

    If you have a lousy give-away-level coin, give him one so he feels the need to check up on it. You might recruit a new collector!
     
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  4. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I've had mixed reactions when people learn that I collect ancients but most that know me well enough that I've mentioned this hobby to them have been in my house and seen my library and know how much time I put towards studying and collecting ancients. It takes a lot of trust for me to even let a good friend into my house. It helps too that I've got a website I can point them to that references all sorts of hoard reports and things.

    That said, at the end of the day there are really only a few people whose opinions without hard evidence I value enough to take seriously when it comes to the authenticity of my own coins. If some random person calls them fake as happens on web forums and other places from time to time I largely just ignore it. I've done the due diligence on my coins to more than convince myself. If someone seemed to have a good faith interest in seeing the sort of evidence I consider as part of that process I'd have no problem sitting down for a few minutes or even hours and showing them but I see no reason to try to convince the average person that they're wrong there.
     
  5. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Which is worse, the folks who can't be convinced that they are genuine, or those who are convinced they are genuine and that therefore you have no business owning them? I wonder which of these drivers was really working on that professor.

    Randy, ask the Prof to explain why he thinks the age of the coins has anything to do with their state of preservation? What will 20 centuries of lying in a clump beneath the surface of the ground do to a silver coin (versus bronze)? Get him to tell you, and be prepared with a printout of the facts on the metallurgy of ancient coins. He needs to get his facts straight, even as he expects you to do.
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Comments like those from that “educator” makes me understand why there is a Flat Earth Society.
     
  7. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Oh dear. Poor @AncientJoe has spent all that money on nothing. I don't think so :D

    And @panzerman, all those lovely coins are not ancient :D.

    And everyone else! I wouldn't worry about it too much. At least he is not a competitor. I am off for my holidays, 2 weeks away with no mobile signal, or internet. Total peace and quiet. Can't wait.
     
  8. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    It might go up to 60% if all Canadian CT members here are outbidded by American bidders in the next @Severus Alexander auction.......
     
  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Just to be clear, I welcome bidders from all nations. :D
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You make a deal with the Man Who Knows Everything.
    You send the coin in for grading. If it comes back "authentic", he has to pay
    the cost. If it comes back fake you pay the cost and an equal amount to him.
    100% he does not accept the deal.
    And it's very true, the older you get, no matter how much you know, you slowly
    realize you don't know anything.
     
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  11. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Doesn't surprise me. From the people I met going into nursing when I was getting my Chemistry degree, they weren't the sharpest tools in the shed. They thought they were though.
    The dept. head would tell us nursing student stories instead of jokes.
     
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  12. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have a good friend who is a PhD Organic Chemist. We have had some very interesting conversations. One of the things that has always fascinated me about chemistry is an example like NACL. On its own, pure sodium explodes on contact with water. As a gas Chlorine is poisonous. However, when they are together we use it to season our food. NACL is table salt.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Yes but some pairing do not play as nicely. Pure carbon can be a diamond and oxygen is needed to support life. Combine them into Carbon monoxide and we die.
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Love is like oxygen... you get too much and you get too high; not enough, and your gonna die.

    Sweet

    :)

     
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