Hard to tell wide or close AM

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Murillo, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone, most of the time it's easy to tell the close AM and the wide A M. Most of the close AM I've seen are touching at the bottom but this one is close but not connected so would like your opinions please. Thank you.
     

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    That's close.
    For it to be wide the space between the AM and ME needs to be basically the same.

    Here is one of my 99 WAMs for example:
    1999 WAM 2nd.jpg
    1999 WAM Close Up.jpg
     
  4. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    what's the coins date?
     
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  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Close AM. Another diagnostic is the engraver’s initials (FG). If you are confused look at the initials for the qualifying font artwork. Good luck.
     
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  6. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    @furryfrog02...Nice WAM. Could we possibly get a close-up of the TAT in States?
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    If you click on the image of the whole coin it should come up pretty well.
    The images are a couple years old so I haven't taken the coin from its flip in awhile.
     
  8. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    I can see it pretty well. But in your photo it makes the A look closer to the T to the right. In the WAMs I have seen the A is centered evenly between the Ts. I use this as a tell if the AM is questionable. Was just wondering if this was a coin that would blow that marker out of the water.
     
  9. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  10. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    I know that none of the websites list the TAT as a marker, but take a look at this from my 2000P WAM and CAM Varieties. Someone on another site showed me this and I looked on my 2000P Wam and what do you know the A in states is more centered in a WAM while on a CAM the A is closer to the T to the right. CAMvsWAM.jpg
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's a close AM.
     
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  12. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    1999 penny
     
  13. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    Was just wondering about your comment: Was just wondering if this was a coin that would blow that marker out of the water. Is this unusual? Thank you for the information.
     
  14. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much!
     
  15. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I made mention of the TAT diagnostic in CCF a few years back but I’m not sure I can claim credit. It was just something else I noticed when flipping 1998, 1999, and 2000 LMCs. I found though that I check the FG font first before looking at the TAT. However, posters posting longer distance pictures may exclude the FG diagnostic making the TAT a more important diagnostic.
     
  16. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    It could've been you. It was on CCF that I saw the thread. I have used this marker ever since.
     
  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Always post the date.
     
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