Irish Groat, Richard III, Henry VII or the pretender Edward VI

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ItsAJ, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ItsAJ

    ItsAJ New Member

    Hi everyone I bought this lovely rare piece, not something you see very often even in Ireland, it's a Groat but I'm not sure as to what monarch or pretender? It either has to be a Richard III, Henry VII or Lambert Simnel who pretended to be Edward VI in Ireland. Any help would be appreciated. The coins even in this state is rare are are notoriously badly struck, not to mention the clipping doesn't help.
    If it's any help I have deducted it to either 6412,6414,6427,6430A in Spinks 2016 Coins of Scotland, Ireland and the Islands. As it has the NVS of Dominvs or else Deminvs still visable on the reverse. My gut says Richard but I'm not certain. coinblue.jpg IMG_20160223_204129973 (1).jpg
     
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  3. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The lettering looks "off" for it to have been a regally issued piece, a pretender might well have issued such a piece though.
     
  4. ItsAJ

    ItsAJ New Member

    Hi there thankyou very much for your post I appreciate all the help I can get. Can I ask what you mean exactly by the lettering as Spinks book shows the legends in Henry's and Richards coin quite similar in structure, although Edwards is alot more stringy than this example. I initially thought it could be Edward but then I swayed towards Richard.
    Lack of pictures on these coins has been a bit of a pain identify the variety and what pictures there are all the coins have terrible details and legends. All part of the fun though ;)
     
  5. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Ill hae to get my Coincraft an see if they show any different images.
     
  6. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    Old thread but I suspect it is 6414. Looks like the obverse starts “REX ANGLIE”
     
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