Question on tone

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Chad lajoice, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    A258E60A-747F-4AD3-B106-EFFEDE6CA15F.png 1FCCDA59-66AD-4BD4-85E7-0E5463E5597D.png I like toned coins but I find it hard to determine on some whether it’s real or artificial. I bought one afew weeks ago slabbed that I really liked. I found a raw one this week that looks real similar and have the opportunity to buy afew more but I’d like to know for sure if they are real toning. Is there anything with this coin that screams artificial?
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    My guess would be Natural toned, but I think this coin was cleaned at some point because of the halos around the stars. Wait for more opinions...
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The halos around the stars are called “pull away toning” and is a strong indicator of natural toning. That said, the coin looks hinky, but the photos are too dark to really tell what’s going on. My guess is the coin has been cleaned & dipped and has developed a secondary toning in an album.
     
  5. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    I’ll try to get some better photos later
     
  6. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    I agree, to me it looks like natural toning, & I suggest it may have been a "pocket piece". I don't think it was "cleaned". Here's why: While a coin will acquire dirt, dust, oils, other contaminants, etc. during its lifetime journey, handling a coin periodically will remove such contaminants on flat & high spots, while leaving them in crevasses & around devises, simply because the skin can't reach those places.

    Now, your coin doesn't exhibit the indications (nicks, dings, wear) of significant circulation, so it could have been a pocket piece that someone carried for awhile, then put up, perhaps as Lehigh mentioned, in an album.

    I'm saying this from my experience; I used to carry Morgan's, (not with other change or keys) as pocket pieces, & would often "play" with them (& show them off) & now years later they look just like your coin, toning around devises & low spots, bright on the flat/high spots where they were "fondled". They were never cleaned. (& no, no fingerprints)

    JMO :happy:
     
  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Natural, but not attractive.
     
  8. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    Attractive is on the eye of the beholder. I’m asking about the tone as I’m trying to learn more about how to detect natural to artificial. If its natural the price was right and the youngster they are going to will think they are awesome.
     
  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I agree that this is natural toning. The very dark crescent on the obverse is unattractive, but the rest of the coin looks ok.
     
  10. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    So discussing toning. There is a seller on eBay that has so many toned coins, and I know they are artificial. But then I see he had tons of slabbed coins that were toned that I can only assume are artificial as well. How did he get them toned thru the slabs?
     
  11. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    It depends,... Are they Attractive ??? ;)
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's natural toning but it's not attractive toning. I'm sure this coin was cleaned some time ago.
     
  13. coinquest1961

    coinquest1961 Well-Known Member

    Looks NT to me. I would not dip it. If you like it that's all that really counts.
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    +1 and because it's an 81 S you can still see some tweaks of luster.
    But I agree dipped and retoned
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2019
  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    That coin is natural. Au I’d say and spent quite a bit of time in a cardboard holder or album
     
  16. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Looks natural to me. I would leave it as is given the year, mint and grade. As far as unattractive v. attractive toning, that is subjective but hard for me to say my opinion from the pictures.
     
  17. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The slabs are exposed to a gas, and since they're not air tight, the gas will find its way into the slab and tone the coin.
     
  18. Chad lajoice

    Chad lajoice Member

    Ah. I guess I assumed they were air tight
     
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