Another morgan toner: Guess the grade!

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  1. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Late birthday present - just arrived today. Definitely better late than never. [​IMG]

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    Go ahead and guess the grade...opinions and comments are welcome. [​IMG]
    BTW, it's graded by NGC.

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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    My guess is either AU or 64, lol hard to tell, I'm on laptop. WOW, what a nice present, cool.
     
  4. monkeyman

    monkeyman Coin Hoarder

    I like this toning much more than the other coin you posted today, that is a nice coin, but the eagles breast feathers are either worn, which would warrant an Au-58, or it is just a weak strike and I'd go with a Ms-62 if thats the case.
     
  5. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I'd say a weak strike. Although, there does seem to be something goofy going on below the cotton bols on the obverse. Maybe just the pics.
    Guy~
     
  6. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    It is uncirculated, though the strike is somewhat misleading. :)
     
  7. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    Looks like a 63/64 coin, depending on how much luster it has in hand.
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I'd guess MS64.
     
  9. WmsJewelers

    WmsJewelers New Member

    99 o are common for having a weak strike. I would say NGC MS 65. Very attractive color as well. I like it.
     
  10. dctuttle

    dctuttle Member

    I'll go with MS64, although the cheek looks very clean - might go MS65. Nice Coin !!
     
  11. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Any more guesses before I reveal the grade?
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say MS-63-64 if it is a weak strike & not wear , cheeks & fields free of bag marks , might go 65 if it has the luster, & if strike is normal for the year . Pretty coin .

    RZAGE
     
  13. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    65 would be my guess.
     
  14. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I'm going to have to jump in with a 64. The fields are clean, but I am having trouble with what looks like a rub in the toning on the cheek-throat area, its known as a weak struck year.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    First thought when I saw it was MS-64, sounds about right IMO. Nice coin! :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    what about the smooth spot above the ear in the hair? Is it just a weak strike?
     
  17. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Here it is...
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    Thanks for the guesses and comments everyone. :)
     
  18. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Wow, the damage on the obverse did not harm the grade?

    EDIT: I an confused. At MS-66, doesn't it have to have breast feathers? You can barely see them!
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's a O mint coin, well known for weak strikes Ryan. They make allowances for that when grading.

    Now as for what you are calling damage on the obverse - it is where the toning has been scraped off by something and it is typically not counted as a distracting point by the TPG's when grading.

    However, I personally agree with your thinking and think that it should count against the grade. Not because of the toning, but because the toning has been scraped off. That much seems obvious.

    I can understand not deducting points for toning that is flaking off on its own. But when it has been scraped off as this is, that I find very distracting and think points should be deducted.
     
  20. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    The untoned area on the cheek is not because of the toning being scraped off or flaking off, it's actually an old old fingerprint that must have kept that particular area from toning. ;) I don't mind it too much though as the coin really is quite attractive in hand.
     
  21. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Well, if I personally had that coin, I would grade it AU-50 at the very highest because of the damage. (I was going to go XF-40, but I did not know about the weak strike thingy)
     
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