A couple to chew on

Picked up a small collection got a couple I would like some chatter on see what y'all think. 1st is a hard times token can't see the word copy incised, incused or embossed anywhere on it and the ones I see on line that are authentic are dated 1834 this one is dated 1824. 2nd is a 65 Washington quarter that seems kinda beat up but still looks as if it was a bad strike. Now the thing is on the clipped side the edge is still reeded. Anyway want to hear what y'alls input is

 

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The quarter imo looks more like damage to me as far as the clip I believe we would need to see the side.
The token I had a hard time to blurry for me.jmo

 

I, too, think the quarter is nothing more than damage.

Chris

 

I also think the quarter is trash.

 

Add damaged coin on that 2x2 flip.

 

Some tin shears will leave an edge that looks like reeding.
Reed.

 

The token can't be a genuine 1824, Jackson wasn't even elected president until 1828 and his battle with the bank came much later.

 

All very fascinating information thanks for the input.