1964 Kennedy Half Dollar: Grading Skills required!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ryanbrooks, May 26, 2008.

  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Hello fellow coin peeps :D

    I was wondering what the grade for this would be?

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    Thanks :)
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  4. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Actually, grading skills don't make a whole lot of difference in evaluating blurry images like those.:confused:
     
  5. craig a

    craig a Coin Hoarder

    Well theres your answer. Rather blunt and sarcastic, but an answer none the less. One could've responded thusly; It is difficult to grade as the image is kind of the blurry. Take heart Ryan, not everyone here likes to pierce the skin.
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Ryan , it's hard to tell by your picture , but at least you gave us a picture I still haven't posted a couple of coins because I cant take a good picture with my present camera . Keep at it & I'm sure you'll get better real fast .Does your coin have full luster , or any obvious wear . If not than it's likely a MS-60 & or up .
    rzage
     
  7. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Would this be better?

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  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    My reply wasn't intended to be the least bit sarcastic - I was being serious and frank.
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Lots better , to see all kinds of high quality pictures go to , HA.com . Even with the best pictures it's hard to grade a coin , most will get it in the ballpark , but for an exact grade it's imposible , I'd say PF 64 + or - a couple pts.
    RZAGE
    It looks like you already have it slabbed , could you give us the co. & grade . you can PM me if you'd rather or put it in this thread later , thanks Rusty

    You guys are probably right looks like a proof ,aka sharpness of strike , shininess in hair .
    Wondering about those marks are they in picture , or on slab , or on coin itself , thats the problem with pictures .
     
  10. greglax45

    greglax45 Coin Hoarder

    Haha! Anyway, awesome 2nd pics ryan
    I say MS-63
     
  11. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I'm going to guess that the coin is a Proof, not a business strike, and that the mirror surfaces aren't showing up well in the images. I have a couple of reasons for that and will share them at a later time.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll guess AU-58.

    Edit to change my guess to PR-58:)
     
  13. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Larry, (particularly if it's a Proof) I think you're being too tight.:whistle:
     
  14. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Nope! No mirrored surfaces, just a really good business strike I guess :D
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Maybe, but I'm inclined to agree with him.
     
  16. srkjkd

    srkjkd Book before coin

    i actually am inclined to think this is a proof coin. the letters and rim characteristics seem to me to be a prf coin. it does not have the best obverse detail on the hair but am wondering if it has been impaired w/ wear and/or environmental exposure. the lack of mirrored surfaces may be due to that. i won't give a numerical grade as i feel it is an impaired proof coin.
    this is only my opinion based upon the 2nd set of pics. thank you for sharing your coin.....steve
     
  17. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    That was my thinking, as well, and partly because the coin looks to have some cameo contrast, which is much more common on Proofs. But the original poster has indicated otherwise, and we don't know how accurate or inaccurate the images are.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm probably being too tight but the dark areas on the face and hair sure take away from the looks of the coin. I just couldn't see calling it a 60 or better from the images. I'm probably wrong but dark areas like that make me think AU.
     
  19. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I'm wondering, is it possible to be a proof coin struck on a business strike planchet? I was considering proof, but the planchet doesn't look right if that makes sense. Just a thought.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  20. gmarguli

    gmarguli Slightly Evil™

    The poster said "Nope! No mirrored surfaces, just a really good business strike I guess :D". There may be no mirrors, but the coin looks to be a no doubt proof and mirrors aren't the deciding factor in this.

    This coin has the typical hazed over flat pack look to it with the high points being less hazed as they came into contact with the packaging. The strike is also superb with sharp serifs. This coin looks exactly like literally hundreds of proofs that I have handled. A quick clean up and the mirrors will come out.

    Barring this being an amazingly deceptive picture, this coin is a proof striking.
     
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