This was brought up on another forum Fake chopmarked 1875 CC trade dollar https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...085993?hash=item5b5b146069:g:ktQAAOSwlWBdSLl~
The seller is legitimate. Looking at his other stuff, it all looks genuine. The chopmarks are the right style and are hand-punched into the coin. The luster looks right for a coin circulated to AU condition. The mintmark is the correct style. So, tell me, what makes you so 100% sure that this is absolutely a fake? Every genuine 1804 dollar was at one point raw.
Another forum determined it was fake. We should do the utmost to take down all these fakes and stop them from harming our hobby.
I would not pay that kind of money for this coin. Chop marks are Damage on coins so I fail to understand why they would fake a chop mark. The coin itself looks genuine. Trade Dollars are know for chop marks. There are collectors of chop mark coins.
hmm. i like chop marks and the TPG's will grade them as a "variety". Is it possible to see more information about fake chopmarks, i.e., known fake chopmarks? While chopmarks on this particular issue don't seem to have a deleterious impact on value for circulated XF/AU coins as far as I can tell they don't add value either, so why fake chopmarks is a good question? This XF40 coin passed CAC scrutiny.
I don’t think the op coin looks right. Her face lacks details and the stars look too small and too far from the edge among other things
Same reason as always, to make money. Fake chops can also be used as a way to coverup areas on fake coins that aren't right
I can't say with any confidence that the ebay coin referenced in the OP is a fake. I do think that the small, lightly impressed chops in the L and R obv fields raise my eyebrows somewhat but I make no claims to being a chopmark expert. If I were offering the coin, and someone PM'd me about those chops, I would definitely pull the coin for closer inspection. As a general rule of thumb, buying raw cc trades online carries a significant amount of risk.
I see the OP never responded with the exact tells that made it a counterfeit. I guess he became less confident when forced to think
I sent the images to the Editor of the "Chopmark News" of the Chopmark Collectors Club and he stated it looked OK to him...