Elymais IDs?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by SeptimusT, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    Can anyone ID what these are? Not really my area, but they’re interesting. I’ve seen reverse types similar to the one on the left described as a facing bust, but it takes some real imagination to see it! Feel free to share your own too!

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  3. Bob L.

    Bob L. Well-Known Member

    Left: Orodes II, van’t Haaff 13.1.1-2

    Right: Uncertain Early Arsacid Kings, van’t Haaff 10.4.2-4A
     
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  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Left coin I think is van't Haaff 13.1.1-2, attributed to Orodes II (early-mid 2nd century AD). (Note this is not the famous Parthian king Orodes II [57-38 BC]; the later Elymaean kings were related to the Parthian Arsakid dynasty but were a separate line.) That reverse type indeed started out as a facing bust; van't Haaff shows the sequence of how it degraded over time. (I should do a proper book review some time.)

    Right coin may be van't Haaff 10.3.2-1, "uncertain early Arsakid kings" (late 1st century BC- early 2nd century AD). Hope this helps.
     
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  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Looks like @Bob L. beat me by 1 minute. On the second coin, his call may be right- the reverse types for both are extremely degraded busts, the "I" form looks kind of like something on 10.3.2-1 but that type also features some more obvious traces of the bust, while 10.4.2-4A features only lines but noe of the pictured examples features the "I" shape. As neither type is attributable to a specific ruler, I suppose it matters only to the most obsessive specialists.
     
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  6. norenxaq

    norenxaq Active Member

    par: any idea about specifically how?
     
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