REALLY annoyed with myself

Won this, it is an elephant, enough said. I ALWAYS check the seller against the fake sellers list, except for this time. I think it could be OK but normally I don't patronize fake sellers.

Any red flags you can see?

 

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Had a look around, I think it is seriously underweight, should be around double what it is. Black collection or try for refund, hmmm. Didn't pay too much fortunately.

 

Supporting known fake sellers even by buying genuine coins from them is wrong. Seek refund.

 

Will try Doug.

 

..hmm..idk Pish..imma wiff ya, i ain't got no elephant in my group..

 

"Any red flags you can see?"
Sorry, Pish.
Looking at the letters on the left I'm inclined towards 'fake' (enough to put me off, anyway). But what do I know?
If you got it through eBay, and the seller doesn't come good, I'd put a claim in under eBay's 'Money Back Promise', on the basis of it not being a 'genuine' coin, (i.e. misrepresented).

 

I think I read BASILEOS on the left, Attic Greek for koine Greek for emperor. Does that help?

 

@kevin McGonigal
I was actually referring to the 'hollow' nature of the letters. That doesn't look like a
'hammered' impression (to me). More like cast?

 

Seller marked coin as despatched on Sunday. I wrote to him and told him I would be returning it as a cast fake. Suggested he didn't post it and it would save us both the postage.

Seller asked me to open a case and he would refund immediately. I did this tonight and got a full refund within an hour. Item now relisted.

Thanks people

 

Glad you got the refund. There are only a few sellers on ebay that I will buy Indo Greek/Indo Scythian coins from... far too many fakes coming out of Pakistan and Afghanistan!

What's worse, if he just up and refunded your money without argument, he knew darn well it was a fake!

 

Can you tell us the seller's name?

 

Roman.land

 

Item now relisted....

 

Fakesellers gonna sell fakes. These guys have no shame.

 

And eBay does nothing...

 

They don't care refunding someone finding out the coin to be fake : they avoid a negative feedback and there's always someone else to fool the next time

Q

 

I foolishly bought a few 'ancient' beads from this seller. I realized they may have been fake when I bought them, but took my chances as I wasn't paying much and he had 100% positive from 1,000+. After the items were sent, I saw a bunch of listings by the seller of 'antiques' that look like absolute jokes, especially the alleged Egyptian pieces. I then ran a Google search when I saw too good to be true Alexander the Great coins and found out he has been accused of selling fakes. I confronted him after seeing him relist a number of items I had bought and others multiple times (too many to believe they were all buyers who failed to pay IMO), didn't buy his claims of being authentic. After receiving, I wrote 4 negatives for the beads and pledged not to accept a refund on the items so my negs remained. He refunded me without asking my permission, insisted he was legit and asked me to rectify the situation. I didn't respond. A week or two later, I went back and ebay removed all my negs to this seller.

I am not the only one. I had theorized people were getting refunds and withdrew their negs, and saw another seller just before me leave him a neg. That neg was purged, which is why I took it upon myself to give him a neg rather than just accept my foolishness and move on, because he was getting whatever negs he was removed by a complicit ebay.

People don't look at a sellers neutrals (where they will see numerous claims that he is selling fakes from people who were refunded), they see 100% positive over 1,000+ ebay score = legit seller. They put their guards down when they see that 100%. Neutrals he has gotten accusing him of selling fakes don't alter his numbers: all a viewer sees is that no one has left him a negative. They give him the benefit of doubt.

In reality, ebay is purging peoples negatives to this seller, whether they request a refund or not. I'm not sure if ebay would remove the negs without the refund, anyones guess, but that too wouldn't surprise me.

It's not that people don't have the guts to stand up to sellers like this, it is that ebay is complicit in removing feedback no matter what the buyer does. People are paying over $100 especially for his coins which are going to flood the market. Ebay endorses all of this. This is on you, ebay.

 

EBay make a lot of money from him, End of.

 

I had a response written up, but told to login to send it. Logged in, had a post in an edit box that I worked on yesterday thinking it was the new post and clicked submit. I don't want to post that as I want to review it, but it looks like I lost the post I intended to submit.

 

I'll keep it concise. Get a few lawyers or something to buy products, get the products tested for authenticity, if found fake leave the seller negatives and if ebay removes the negs and justifies it after pleading your case to have it reinstated: class action sue ebay for everyone you can find scammed by this and alike sellers for ebays deception. The mere existence of a negative feedback feature is a deception to consumers if they remove it at leisure like they do to protect sellers like this.