this one suuuuure looks fishy to me.... opinoins? http://cgi.ebay.com/1847-SEATED-LIB...ryZ11977QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
as posted by the seller "this original coins. I guarantee, if it is fake, i'll return the money as long as buyers not cheat me by returning the fake . I've few old coins." phew, i was worried there a second.
My advice ... Visit thread posted several pages down a few days ago titled" BEWARE, examine this coin" posted by ozarktravler, lot of good information and pic's of trade dollars. OT
1847-S Seated Dollar. Obvious fake. The first clue is . . . THERE WAS NOT A MINT IN SAN FRANCISCO UNTIL 1854. The second clue is . . . THE SAN FRANCISCO MINT DID NOT MINT SILVER DOLLARS UNTIL 1859. Get a Red Book and USE IT.
By golly, you have a point there. The auction is still active. Too bad eBay didn't pull the auction when I notified them.
they will pull it after it sells....they have to get those final value fees yanno? They have been doing that these days
LOL an S mint. You'd think they would have done a wee bit of research before they put money into making a counterfeit coin.. you know, at least produce a coin that has a true real example
You need to understand how this happened before you can appreciate why it happened. This coin is a Chinese counterfeit. The counterfeiters have quite a few obverse dies of various dates as well as several reverse dies with various mintmarks (or no mintmark). They mix and match the obverse and reverse dies pretty much at random. These Chinese counterfeiters do good to make sure they matchan obverse die with a reverse die. I doubt they have a Red Book handy (and even if they did I doubt they could read it) so they do not have a clue that they are making a fake of a coin that never existed by matching a reverse die with an "S" mintmark with an 1847 obverse die. They most likely have never noticed the "S" mintmark and even if they did they probably do not know its significance. I have a few of these fantasy pieces myself but mine are 1848-S. (Yes, I bought them knowing they were fake.)
Subtle... but yes, it's a hint. Further subtle clues (in addition to the bombs dropped in prior posts) : Method of manufacture : PROOF :hammer: "is in natural state to retain its value" :hammer: And my personal favorite : "You can get pro to polish" :hammer: Best E-bay auction ever ! This is the most fun you can have at work.
