Dime size reeded edge 1951 wheat

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  1. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    6CCB6254-59DF-4CBF-856E-88409DA56631.jpeg A3CEAB4B-C364-4CDE-A1E8-2FC2F0CF98CF.jpeg The This 1951 penny has reeded edge its faint where you can see it and it the exact size of a dime. I always thought because it was copper color it was damaged by someone after left mint. But I rececently read something about a quarter struck on a penny and color looked more quarter then a penny so I took closer look and that’s when I noticed edge is reeded also it doesn’t have the copper sound when it’s dropped it’s sounds lighter if that makes sense it’s more like zinc but I know that not possible and I don’t have and silver dimes or a 1943 penny to compare sound to.
     
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  3. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

  4. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    I believe someone cut down a cent, possibly to use in a vending machine as a dime. The reeding is most likely file marks. I am sure more opinions will be coming.
     
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  5. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Could be struck on a foreign planchet;
    the 'reeding' looks like it might be from
    a counting machine.

    Please weigh the coin in either grams or
    grains and let us know.

    Although it's not perfectly round, and
    might have been cut down to turn into
    a dime for a vending machine, it also
    has some of the characteristics of a
    wrong planchet strike. However, I don't like the
    reverse area from about 12:30 to 2:30.
     
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  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Fred, would the coin have received a rim in the upsetting mill if it were an undersized foreign planchet?
     
  7. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Yes, it could have easily received a partial
    upset rim in the upsetting mill.

    The normal cents before and after this one
    (assuming it's a foreign planchet) would have
    'encased' the foreign planchet against the
    upsetting mill as they all rotated around,
    getting the upset rim in some areas, which
    is what I see.

    As mentioned, I also see an area that looks
    like it was cut.

    The weight, in grams or grains, and better,
    closer up photos would be most helpful.
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    So, if I understand correctly, you're saying that the preceding and succeeding cents entrapping the smaller blank between them with enough force to push the smaller blank up against either the stationary die or the spinning die with sufficient force to impart a rim on the smaller blank?

    No disrespect intended Fred, but I'm not convinced. Can you provide more detail?
     
  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Not quite as obvious as this one, for a cent cut down to dime size to fit in a soda machine. But also a 1951, 2.44g.
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  10. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    Thank you I will try and weigh I don’t have scale available that weighs grams or grains but soon as Can I will update this forum with info. I have few other coins Ive had years just some pocket finds I always assume that their just beat up coins but maybe some are possibles. Im a newbie is it for a few pics with couple different coins in one forum and if any possibles then I can take some pics to show more detail or should each gets its own forum thanks yall
     
  11. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    Can the diameter of the coin or weight effect the sound that it would make when you drop it I always assumed the different pitch it made was due to the size or weight does that effect the noise you hear at all you think
     
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  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    The pitch is affected by both the stiffness and the mass of the coin. If the thickness of the coin is substantially unchanged, but its diameter (and therefore it mass) reduced significantly, one should expect a decrease in the pitch, although it may not be very noticeable.
     
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  13. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

  14. Larry E

    Larry E Well-Known Member

    Long time ago we use grind down the edge of pennies to use them as dimes in some candy and soda machines
     
  15. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Coming to the conversation way late, but I literally just found one, 1952-D weighing in at 2.54 grams, found in a coin roll I got from an estate. Edges are still shiny from where the reeded edge was machined/pounded down. Ha, first for me.
     
  16. paddyman98

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    You should then start your own separate unique thread.. With pictures.
     
  17. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    Took some time but I was able to weigh finally the scale weigh in grams (0.1) and result was 2.5. This was not my scale so accuracy give it +-.1 for error
     
  18. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    Weight was 2.5 grams I was using a scale that weighed in grams not tenths of grams so I feel that there is +-.1 for error
     
  19. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

  20. Christopher Taylor

    Christopher Taylor “BE KIND, OTHERS ARE FIGHTING THEIR BATTLES TOO”

    Actually 2.3-2.4 grams
     
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