BEWARE, examine this coin carefully

Sweet RB :hail:

It's nice to see the real deal, so as to have something to reference all the fakes against. The denticles are all like they should be, which usually isn't the case with the counterfeits and I've used that tell-tell to save me many times. :thumb:

Ribbit

Ps: There is a way to save you from having to post it for the 2002'nd time . . . give it to me and I'll post it for you.

Ribbit - Ribbit - Ribbit

 

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Thank you !

I'd send it, but I can't afford the shipping.


Note the TGP that encapsulated it.

 

:mouth: :mouth: :mouth: :mouth:

Do they give quantity discounts?

I've got a bunch of coins I need slabbed (not as in morgue) and could use a grading service that provides bulk discounts.

Ribbit

 

gut feeling.

 

why not get spocks grading service. i charge only $10 a coin and you pay shipping both ways. plus alt he trekkies will love your coins when they find out its spocks grading service. heck if you give it to the right person inthe river you might find your princess. dont forget now i accept money gold or other coins as payment

 

Yeah, but Spocks Grading Service would be SGS.
You sure your reputation could stand up to that acronym ?

 

Spock's grading service would be:

SGS Ltd.

The "limited" is debatable but we won't go there . . . right? :secret:

Ribbit

 

no it wouldnt it would be SCGS spock's coin grading service not to confuse it with other grading service we provide.

 

Looks better than the fakes of the past..... First impression was OK.... Further looking....... Something "just doesn`t look right". Looks too perfect for an XF-AU coin. Know what I mean???

 

please, concerning the coin

authenticity obscured due to wear, can you please give weight of coin? thanks, OT

 

To the original coin posted - it screams fake to me. As already mentioned, the head of the eagle is all wrong.

But I suppose that's already been decided...

 

my apology, post meant

Post was question for Bruce ,concerning weight of coin he posted, as his coin does look authentic.
Please take a look at authentic Trade Dollar posted below and compare to new pics taken of my Trade Dollar.
There are several clues hidden in die detail of these coins that enable us determine authenticity, can you spot them, can you discribe them? I found 8 flaws , how many do you see? OT

 

I can't believe that in four pages of posts no one mentioned the fact that the coin in the original post had a type 1 reverse and the type 1 wasn't used in 1877.

 

I wasn't aware they changed the reverse? :goofer:

Ribbit

 

Darn, muled die?

The coin is actually struck from a combination of dies, commonly termed "muled die" probably salvaged dies re-furbished. The US is flooded with low grade specimans selling on average of $25 each. This seemingly hurt the market for authentic trade dollars, however ... only makes authentic ,slabbed trade dollars, make them more valuable. OT

 

They changed both the obv and the reverse, All 1873 and 74 coins are type 1 obv/rev, all 1877 and later are type II obv/rev. 1875 and 76 can be found with various mulings of the two types. I don't have a complete listing of known mulings at hand.

There is also a transitional obv that isn't well known in I believe 1876 that has the ribbon ends pointing left as in type I and four fingers on the right hand as in type II. This was discovered on a proof coin but I think at least one business strike may have turned up as well. I'd have to go check my references.

 

I agree. The folds towards the left hand are incorrect. Also the liberty banner tail doesnt turn the correct way.

 

Seems the edges come apart a little on Right side of Reverse that I can see. Definately no expert. Hey OZARK where did you get this? I got one of these couple years ago with the same thing....but as said before it was the weight that was the telling feature......the one I got was i think 25 grams. Sent it back, got a refund at least!

 

Note the separation along the edge......i swear mine was exactly the same! :goof:

 

retooled the dies

That looks authentic? The obverse design was altered at least three times. It takes a professinal to examine and determine which variety/type obverse /reverse were used for each year of mintage. Possibly the reason they were melted? When the coins are worn it becomes difficult to tell if there real/fake.