Tons of doubled quarters?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by playguitar, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Hi Guys, in all my 6 years of roll searching, I have found maybe 5 actual double dies and I go thru about 4 boxes of pennies a month average. But now I have been finding all these uncirculated doubled quarters that made me happy at first, but now I have hundreds so I am sad that I must be delusional. These are not my best ones, just average ones, and I have at least 5 copies of each variation. Sorry about the photos, it's just a Childs "Bug Photography" lens from Hobby Lobby and I have spent hours trying to get a good shot. In real life they look like beautiful classic doubled dies that are easily seen. I don't see how I could be wrong again, I'm a trained art director in old school print shops, but I like to believe they are real. What do you think? Double SL.jpg
     

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  3. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    The sheer number of them should answer your question (and I believe you already answered that in your post).
     
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  4. cpm9ball

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    @playguitar

    I wish you had a better method of capturing close-ups. A decent camera with macro capability or a (non-digital) stereomicroscope with zoom capability (below) would be better.

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    Chris
     
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  5. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Excellent close up! My compliments on it!
     
  6. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Hmmm..it seems like I can see from the photos, but they are already in my consciousness. Incidentally, I went thru about 20 uncirculated boxes to get them, so it isn't that crazy that I found a lot once I found where they were, (But I am crazy for even doing it!) They are stamped in metal by the Federal Mint, it's not my imagination and they aren't mechanical sloppy doubles, so what are they then?
     
  7. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    A few of those pictures would have had me asking about doubling for sure....but then again, I stink at this so everything looks legit to me at first. It looks like legit doubling but then thats why this hobby is so hard! Too recent to look up varieties huh?
     
  8. gronnh20

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  9. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Exactly Matrix, that's the delema, I guess. I'm not a rich dude, too spend my wife and my money on my hobby for a $1000 camera to take pictures of quarters seems like that might end badly...but if some people take the time to look I think it's fairly apparent, and with some positive feedback I might think of things differently....
     
  10. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Yah, your right on that grohnn20. Man, I looked all over for info before I finally posted on here, thanks for clarifying. I have others though that are more double date, I never did trust the e paribus unum ones, I kept them separate. I was hoping these photos would do and you used the worst photos of the group to help me get to understanding, thanks bud!
     
  11. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Wow, OK, I spend 5 years looking for the doubling with the little niches or ticks as a guide line for doubling because it seemed like that was the tool of measurement...until now. Now that I finally find some, it's machine doubling. Whatever, what a waste of time. Thanks for helping me understand guys. The funny thing is, I must have put back 300 uncirculated W mint (before someone told me to keep them) because I had so many I thought they must not be valuable.
     
  12. cpm9ball

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    Unfortunately, a camera and related equipment for numismatic photography is pretty much a necessity if you want to search for errors & varieties and find out what they are in an online forum such as this.

    Beyond that, most of the "help" you might get will just be guesses.

    Sorry!

    Chris
     
  13. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Buy or make a shim. That will let you place the lens a repeatable distance from the coin.

    A block of wood, a piece of sandpaper and a rubber-band and an afternoon.

    Start with a block that's close, but just a little too big.

    Make a groove on one side (to hold the rubber band).

    Now sand a little off the opposite side. Test the focus. Sand, test, etc.

    When you get it just right, you'll be able to rubber band the lens to the block and just slide coins in and out all day without fooling with the focus.

    Switch to dimes? Make another block.


    If you get ambitious, you can make a second block to hold your cellphone just the right height about the lens for photography.

    New cell phone? New block of wood...
     
  14. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Buy or make a shim. That will let you place the lens a repeatable distance from the coin.

    A block of wood, a piece of sandpaper and a rubber-band and an afternoon.

    Start with a block that's close, but just a little too big.

    Make a groove on one side (to hold the rubber band).

    Now sand a little off the opposite side. Test the focus. Sand, test, etc.

    When you get it just right, you'll be able to rubber band the lens to the block and just slide coins in and out all day without fooling with the focus.

    Switch to dimes? Make another block.


    If you get ambitious, you can make a second block to hold your cellphone just the right height about the lens for photography.

    New cell phone? New block of wood...
     
  15. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Burton, your set up sounds awesome, but I'm not quite getting it. Its seems lighting and magnification are my problem but also its the focus. You don't have a photo of your shim, do you?
    Maybe some of these quarters are mechanical, but this one looks just like what I would consider a classic double die, but I've always been a copper penny guy...
     

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  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Seriously, what's complex about a block of wood. Understand I'm not doing more than taking a basic record shot of a slab...

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    Put cell phone on block... take picture. Need to be a little farther away, put smaller block on top/under big block.

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    If you tap the screen where the coin is, you get a nice focused picture of the scratches on the slab in that location

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    again, all of this is good enough for basic record keeping.
     
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  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I haven't found 1 W quarter.
     
  18. Zach1983

    Zach1983 Active Member

    what are you using to get this kind of close up?
     
  19. cpm9ball

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    It was taken with a binocular stereomicroscope with zoom capability. Note in the photo below that a camera attachment slips over one of the eyepieces. If I ever get another one, it will be trinocular so that there is a dedicated eyepiece for the camera.
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  20. Burton Strauss III

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    Cell phone... Galaxy Note 9 so it has a good lens but not a macro of any kind. Just lay it on the block so it's rigid. Touch the screen to set the focus point and then the trigger.
     
  21. Zach1983

    Zach1983 Active Member

    I've actually been looking to get something like that. Just haven't wanted to spend that money yet.
     
  22. cpm9ball

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    The big difference between a stereomicroscope and a USB microscope is that the USB scope incorporates a digital zoom while the stereomicroscope incorporates an optical zoom.

    If you do decide to purchase a stereomicroscope sometime in the future, I would strongly recommend a trinocular version that incorporates a dedicated eyepiece for the camera. When I purchased this binocular version, the trinocular version costed more than $3,000. Now, it's less than $1,500.
    Chris
     
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