1969 s Lincoln cent double die?

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  1. sraqqap

    sraqqap New Member

    Hello all, what do you guys think of this one? Is this a ddo? Thanks
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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Naw, it ain't. Sorry about that.
     
  4. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

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    Put me in the MD column. You're looking in the right spot though! icon_smile_thumbsup.gif
     
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  5. sraqqap

    sraqqap New Member

    Thanks! So it's just machine doubling then?
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes to Mechanical Doubling.
    Not even close to the true Doubled Die Big One!
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    it was estimated that approximately 100 of the 1969 S Doubled Die cents reached circulation.
    First discovered in 1970
    So the "collectors" have had 49 years to find them all.

    Back then, the Mint Marks were hand stamped in the die. So when you see the date and mint mark having the same doubling effects you're more than likely looking at mechanical doubling.
     
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  8. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    *ponders still not being able to distinguish md from the real deal. Tis depressing*
     
  9. sraqqap

    sraqqap New Member

    I am quite a novice at coins. I inherited a very unorganized collection from my grandfather a few years ago. The time that I have to spend on coins is very little, and so it has taken me several years just to get them to the point where I even know what I have. There are so many different kinds of coins and so many things to learn about. I am very grateful for my collection and for the time I've been able to spend learning about this new thing that connects me to my grandfather.
    Please do not be depressed because of my learning process. Delight instead that a new lover of coins is here! I look forward to sharing more with this forum whenever I can!
     
  10. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I'm not really that depressed though. More sarcasm than depression. Just aggravates me that I can't instantly detect md as easily as some here are able to do. You're correct about learning too. It never stops.
     
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  11. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Here's my first marker-if the mintmark is doubled on a 69 S, it's NOT the ddo;) That makes it real easy.
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Except that SOME of the 1969 S DDO cents do show MDD on the mintmark.
     
  13. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    May be true as far as I know, but this is a quote from the PCGS coinfacts page:

    "True 1969-S Doubled Die Obverse cents today are extremely scarce. However, many new collectors confuse the 1969-S Doubled Die Obverse cents with machine doubling. Machine doubling is caused when the coin dies bounce as coins are struck. This occurs when the bolts holding the coin dies loosen. Machine doubling is very common and commands no premium.

    A true 1969-S Doubled Die Obverse cent will not have doubling on the mintmark as the mintmark was punched into the die separately. On a machine-doubled coin, the mintmark will be doubled along with most or all of the legends and devices."

    So, if there is MD on one or more of the 40 known examples, it's not part of the DDO and doesn't really matter;)
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    This photo is the rare coin and the doubling is obvious to the naked eye:
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  15. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    all kinds of great advice. In the process of elimination in the beginning, if the mint mark as Gen X stated has the same doubling as the date its not a doubled die. Its a super easy way to make an initial quick determination.
     
  16. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    Great post Michael K....Im going to keep that picture for myself.
     
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