I came across a 3 coins same year same mint showing the same doubling would that make it most likely a doubled die?
Please post clear photos of both sides of the entire coin with closeups of the area you see the doubling. Thank you.
I'm sorry I can't include pictures at the moment my USB camera is acting up and if I take them with just my phone the doubling doesn't show up. So I was just asking in general as a rule of thumb becilbe it was my understanding that machine doubling was a quick glitch so wasn't likely to produce a lot of doubled coins at least not enough that I would come across 3.
It could be Longacre Doubling, which is how the lettering and images were pressed into the die, but not a doubled die.
I have numerous coins that show the same doubling and they are all Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration Doubling. Many are the same year. That kind of doubling is very common. At first, it's very exciting.....until you find out about what's known as.....Worthless Doubling.
So basically the chances of actually finding anything is about the same as being struck by lightning when there's not a cloud in the sky right after winning the lottery.
You could put it like that if you want. Follow this link, look at the menu on the top left, choose "Worthless Doubling" and read all about it. That will start your learning process about doubling. Wexler's Coins and Die Varieties
I'm just starting to wonder how long the odds are of finding an error/variety is. Because I'm starting to think that I should go back and risk the chemical fumes recovering gold from computers and cell phones.
Haha, don't give up hope, and don't huff chemicals! It is absolutely, 100% possible to find new varieties. We might even be able to tell you more about what you are seeing, if you provided details (what type of coin, what year, what are you seeing?). Obviously, pictures would be best! And, just to show you that it IS possible, here's one I discovered. This is a 1951 Franklin, DDR-005, and I am officially credited with discovery in the CONECA files: Notice the very strong doubling along the bottom of the bell.
I wasn't saying I was planning on huffing chemicals there is just a lot of fumes from the acid used to recover gold from computers and other electronics. I will post pictures of the coins in question as soon as I replace my USB camera. For now my question is hypothetical about wether or not multiple coins of the same year and mint mark showing the same doubling were more likely to be doubled dies than say machine doubling.
The first thread I posted showed a quarter that I was told was machine doubling I happen to have 2 others same year same mint mark that have the same doubling just not as extreme as that one that's why I posted pictures of that one. I also have 4 nickels 2018 D mint mark that show doubling on liberty the date and Monticello.
True doubled die coins are so difficult to find. Most doubling is either Mechanical Doubling, Die Deterioration Doubling, and Abrasion Doubling. (I don't think I've ever seen an example of Abrasion Doubling on this site). Read about it here: http://doubleddie.com/144864.html I'll reserve comment on your coins until you post photos. After thinking about it, I probably have seen coins with Abrasion Doubling but they were called Mechanical Doubling.
In the last month, there have been maybe 3-5 true varieties or true mint errors , with nearly 700 threads asking if the persons coin was a "WINNER", as they heard that almost every change pocket has a valuable coin in it, and usually they shoot the messenger. I try not to curse, but luckily I NEVER hook a mike up to my computers. If you have any way to make a solid minimum wage salary, use that to accumulate money to buy what coins you want. But if a person is trying to make any money,. or fast money, or easy money....CRH for cash is not even on the list. People who do well at cherry picking in shows or shops have spent a degree worth of knowledge to be able to do that. Just trying to be honest. IMO , Jim
Haha, I was joking. I tend to be very sarcastic. Please don't take offense at anything I say. I'm familiar with the process of recovering gold, as my dad is an avid prospector. I am still interested in seeing photos of what you've got, when you can.
I posted the pictures of the nickels under "nickels doubled?" But so far the popular vote is machine doubling. I didn't realize machine doubling on the same coin same year, mint mark and the same place on a coin happened so frequently.
Well, when you think about how MD happens, then you realize that the same thing happens on coin after coin until a mint employee realizes what's happening and then tightens a screw, or realigns a collar. or whatever he has to do to stop the MD. Remember, when coins are being minted, they're minting the same coin (year and MM), very, very quickly, over and over, thousands and thousands, even millions, at a time. Remember, these are automated machines that operate as fast as robotically possible. A mint employee does not typically stop the machine to look for doubling, of any kind. A mechanical failure, that stops the process, would cause the employee to examine the machine, and/or coins, find a problem, and fix it. Disclaimer : I am NOT a mint employee, have never been one, never will be, and have never played one on TV. What I have just written comes from a very small amount of knowledge of the minting process, a slightly larger amount of knowledge of the general manufacturing process, and a very large amount of desire to show off the previous two. lol We have many other members who can expound to a larger degree concerning your finding 3 coins with the same MD on them.
I'm still learning and starting to see the big picture now. I originally thought it was just a little hiccup in the process like when a car back fires (not the best example) I'm still not sure why when it's machine doubling everything on the coin isn't doubled. But I guess that's not really important.
