Very curious about this coin I recieved! Do they just make copies of these?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Amberlarry22, Sep 5, 2019.

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Do they make fakes?

  1. Is it possible it real?

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  2. Is it possible they sell these anymore

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  1. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    No clue!
     

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I am by no means an expert on this coin having only seen pictures of them. That being said, it is a highly sought-after coin and there are tons of fakes out there. I don't have a warm fuzzy about yours being real.
    Can you take a picture of the edge too? It looks like there is a seam.
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    There are fakes of practically any coin ever produced. Yours is obviously not the one in that auction. If you would like some opinions, you need in-focus pictures of the coin you have along with the weight and diameter in mm. Please post the pictures full size.
     
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  5. Kentucky

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    The bubbly surface and what looks like a casting seam cast great doubt on this. Where did you get it and what did you pay. If it seems too good to be true, that's probably the case.
     
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  6. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    I don’t have a scale but weight just as much as 15 pennies
     

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  7. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    So if u can see a small seam of some sort! It’s fake as heck lol
     
  8. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    It was giving as a gift! I didn’t pay nothing for it! What do u even think a fake would cost?
     
  9. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    There is! I had no clue! Thanks for sharing!
     
  10. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

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  11. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Well it looks good anyways :)
     
  12. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I've seen replicas sell for $20 to $100 or more, depending on who made them, what they're made of (silver or not), and how high quality they are. Yours doesn't look like a high quality one, and I have some doubts it's silver.
     
  13. Amberlarry22

    Amberlarry22 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Prob not! Ways of knowing? Weight maybe?
     
  14. gsimonel

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  15. kaparthy

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    The genuine example shown in the Numismatica Genevensis sale is a good standard. I do not have the numbers in front of me, but, basically, every known example of this coin is accounted for. Every sale comes with a long line of provenance (previous owners). More to the point, Numismatica Genevensis is a member of the IAPN (International Association of Professional Numismatists). And you can read about their sales in Coins Weekly (https://coinsweekly.com/numismatica-genevensis-sa-ch-genf-4/) and their auction catalogs are for sale on the aftermarket (https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/numismatica-genevensis-sa/). So, you found a good comparison to judge against.

    Against that, you have a coin that you say was given free as a gift that you "... didn't pay nothing for..."

    As for the "pennies" not all of them weigh the same. It matters what year they were struck; and 15 of the most modern issues come to 37.5 grams (2.5 grams each). So, with this coin known at 43.17 grams, you are "two pennies short of a decadrachm."

    As you apparently do not collect coins, if we may ask, what is your interest in ancient history that some close personal friend thought to give you this nice copy of a piece of classical Syracuse?
     
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  16. dougsmit

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    There are a hundred different fakes of this popular coin. While a casting seam is a bad sign, the lack of one is no reassurance since there are original modern dies that produce struck replicas that will fool people who know nothing about the real coins. This one is the Antiquanova in tin. They also make one in silver but that one is more expensive because of the bullion value.
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    My favorite replica was made in 1898 as an advertising giveaway for the Stearns Bicycle Co. in Syracuse, NY. Obviously it won't fool people into believing it is ancient but these are collectible in their own right.
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