Newest Aquisition - 1802 S-235 DBLC

Howdy fellow coin peeps, :thumb:

This is my latest acquisition - an S-235 1802 Draped Bust Large Cent. There's a nice rim cud @ 1 o'clock on the obverse and a weak strike in the date/breast area and on the opposite side in the "OF" area. I believe this to be a Sheldon 235 variety but I may be wrong so confirmation would be appreciated. Also, there are signs of past corrosion so this has been cleaned at some time.

Ribbit

 

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Nice coin! Still looks like a S-235 to me.

 

Pretty nice !
I like those old ladies.

 

gorgeous . thank you for sharing. can't comment on variety as having enough trouble putting a morgan mint and date set together. when that is done, i want to go for a type set as i can't wait to own coins like these. thanks again for sharing your coin....what history it has seen...........

 

A little dinged up, but nothing to be ashamed of! May it hold a proud place in your collection.

 

Very nice coin. Congrats.

 

wait do u mean that somone cleaned it along time ago and it got "dirty" again over the years

 

Here's one that came in today. It's a 1803 and I believe it's a Sheldon 257 but would like confirmation on it from our copper guru's. :hail:

Ribbit

 

Nice coin - no books at work to help attribute it.

 

Your 1802 is definitely a S-235 per my Breen book: "Curl point below B. Nine Berries. Leaf point at upright of D". Nice coin, rated high rarity 3. Not bad for an 1802!. Surfaces a bit rough, but in my opinion has a nice overall appearance. Congratulations!

 

your 1803 does not appear to be an S-257. The bases of "ER"should be very close together. In your example they are not. I will take a closer look later.

 

Thanks Eduard! :thumb:

Ribbit

Ps: Which book are you using? :hail:

Pps: I don't have a book on varieties yet so I have to use the limited CoinFacts pics and a side-by-side comparison of their S-257 sure looked exactly like my 1803:

http://www.coinfacts.com/large_cent...nts/1803_large_cents/1803_large_cent_s257.htm

 

Well, i have checked all the 1803 reverses ressembling that of your coin, and the only one which really matches is, as you first mentioned, the S-257. The Breen book states that for this variety, the bases of "IB" almost touch, and the bases of "ER" are
very close. Check your coin for these diagnostics. It may well be S-257, but the surface irregularities on your coin are probably clouding that in the photo.
Eduard

 

Here's a tough one for me. Coinfacts is extremely limited on their 1800's pics so I have no clue what variety this is? The details are very worn and corroded but should be good enough to type and if I had a variety book, I think I could figure it out but I know on some varieties you need better details than this old gal has.

Ribbit

 

The S-257 was the closest I could come up with also but like I said, CoinFacts is very limited with pics and is all I have to use currently. I really need to get a book so I can type my coppers without limitations, besides eyesight. :kewl:

Thanks for your help Eduard! :thumb:

Ribbit

 

The IB are closer than the IB on my 1802 and the right base of the I has a little corrosion damage that makes the distance look more than it really is, so I believe it qualifies and it does look just like the one from CoinFacts, including the IB situation (corrosion taken into consideration).

Thankies again! :thumb:

Ribbit

 

Here is another http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s257.jpg courtesy of Tom Deck to use for comparison. The darker picture I think looks like a 257, but when I get home later tonight I will check again.

 

Hey Mark, :thumb:

What I found interesting about that one is the leaf to the right of the T in UNITED. There's a flaw just above it that looks a little like a ribbon and the same flaw appears to be on mine. The one on CoinFacts doesn't have this flaw so I would think it designates as later state die for his and mine.

Thankies! :thumb:

Ribbit

Ps: It could also just be corrosion on mine but the shape is very similar.

Pps: The C in CENT is also dropped. Is that common in the Draped Busts or a particular in this variety?

 

If you are getting into these early varieties, you should really get the Noyes references. They make attribution a breeze...Mike

 

More info please? :hail:

I am getting into varieties and need reference material and am open to any and all suggestions. Also, a digital variety reference guide would be awesome, if such a thing exists. :thumb:

Ribbit