My First ADVENTVS Coin

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  1. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

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    Roman Empire
    Philip I the Arab (AD 244-249)
    AR Antoninianus, Rome mint, struck ca. AD 245
    Obv.: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: ADVENTVS AVGG; Philip on horseback left, raising right hand and holding spear
    Ref.: RIC IV 26b

    Ex. Savoca 23rd Blue Auction (Aug. 2019)

    Philip’s Adventus Coins

    Philip I was Praetorian prefect for Gordian III during the Roman invasion of Persia in AD 243-244. When the Roman army was defeated at the Battle of Misiche, Gordian III was either killed in battle or killed by his disgruntled officers (probably instigated by Philip) after the battle. The army proclaimed Philip emperor and he quickly concluded a humiliating peace agreement with Shapur I of Persia. He then headed to Rome as quickly as he could to shore up his support in the senate.

    The striking of this coin in AD 245 coincides with Philip’s entry into Rome (ADVENTVS) on his return from the east. This coin was almost certainly struck as part of a donative to the army to secure their continued loyalty as Philip looked to solidify his position.

    The plural AVGG of the reverse legend apparently refers to the raising of the empress Otacilia to the rank of Augusta in 245 which marked an unusual use of this plural abbreviation on Roman coinage.

    This is my first ADVENTVS type coin and I think it is a nice coin for the price I paid for it. Please post your Philip I and ADVENTVS coins!

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    Bust of Philip I rediscovered in 1778 and housed in the Vatican Museum (Author’s photo)
     
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  3. Parthicus Maximus

    Parthicus Maximus Well-Known Member

    Nice addition! I love the portrait it's beautiful. I don't have any Philip I or Adventvs coins yet, but maybe soon.
     
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  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Very nice, I really like that portrait. Here are my coins from Philip:

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  5. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    My one and only Philip the Arab coin. I really like the patina and details on this coin.
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    Poor Annona looks like she's gonna puke.
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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Gotta hand it to you Curtis you have a great eye for quality, fantastic detailed coin. And great price, congrats.
     
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  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Great coin, congrats Curtis.

    Father & son:

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  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Curtisimo, Nice score ;)! The portrait is excellent & the detail on the reverse is impressive, & to top it off the coin looks FDC :D.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While I upgraded some time ago, I never got rid of my first Philip which I saw as better style.
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    While not Adventus, there are other horse coins of note. This with father and son is from the officina numbered series.
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    Of course my favorite horse coins are Severan.

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    Top of my heap are the Septimius Severus 'Emesa' mint coins. To specialists, they are different in some way justifying the multiples. Most here would see no reason for this and would prefer one high grade coin to cover them all. Years ago I traded away my finest of the common version (with scepter) for a rare Mars reverse. The dealer though I was a fool. He may have been right. rg2430b01220lg.jpg rg2460b00500lg.jpg rg2470b01566lg.jpg
     

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  10. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    @Curtisimo, an excellent coin and Vatican Museum photo. As I don't have an Adventus Augg - I will add a coin of Otacilia Severa (with Pietas wearing a baseball glove on her right hand?) from AD 248.
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    Otacilia Severa AD 244-249, Rome, AR Antoninianus
    Obv: OTACIL SEVERA AVG, diademed and draped bust right, set on crescent
    Rev: PIETAS AVGG Δ, Pietas standing left, raising hand and holding box of perfumes, to left, altar
     
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  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Excellent addition and very cool price to it

    No Adventus here, but a family snapshot

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    Cheers my friend
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  12. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    That’s a great new addition, @Curtisimo


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    Phillip I, Antoninianus, circa 248, (21mm., 3.04g). Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right/Rev. Philip I and Philip II, on horses, galloping r., each raising r. hand and holding spear. RIC 10.

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    Philip I, Antoninianus, Rome, AD 247, (23mm, 4.55g), Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / Annona standing left, holding grain ears over prow and cornucopia. RIC IV 59.
     
  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Great coins, all! Thanks for sharing!
     
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  14. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely coin, @Curtisimo ! A fine acquisition for your collection! It seems the ADVENTVS design was quite popular among the barracks emperors; coins of Philip I, Trajan Decius, Trebonianus Gallus, Gallienus, and Probus make use of the motif.

    Here's my ADVENTVS of T-Bone from the Antioch mint. It's not exactly high-grade silver.

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    My favorite Philip is still the elephant one!

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  15. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins :)
    My ADVENTUS coin from Probus.....

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    Probus, antoninianus
    Probus, silvered antoninianus
    Rome mint, 7th officina
    279 AD
    23.5 mm, 3.7g
    Obv. IMP PRO-BVS AVG, Bust of Probus, radiate and cuirassed, facing right
    Rev. ADVEN-TVS AVG, Probus, in military attire, on horseback left, raising his right hand in salute and holding sceptre in his left; to left, seated captive; in exergue: R, crescent, ς
    RIC V 157
     
  16. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    As always, BEAuuuutiful coin, wonderful photography and excellent write up:wideyed::snaphappy::artist:
    Here is my only Phil and phamily:
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    Philip I
    A.D. 244-249. AR antoninianus(22.7 mm, 2.1 g,). Rome, A.D. 247. IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Philip I right / ROMAE AETERNAE, Roma seated left on shield, holding Victory on globe and spear. RIC 44b; RSC 169
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    Otacilia Severa
    AR antoninanus, 244-249 CE Mint:Rome, 244-245 CE, 22mm x 25mm, 4.12g Obv: MARCIA OTACIL SEVERA AVG
    Diademed and draped bust right, with a crescent behind her shoulders.
    Rev: PVDICITIA AVG
    Pudicitia seated left, right hand drawing veil from face and holding a transverse sceptre in her left arm.
    Ref: RCV (2005) 9159; RIC IV
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    Philip II
    (AD 247-249). Silver antoninianus Antioch. IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust of Philip II right / CONCORDIA AVGG, Concordia seated left, holding patera and cornucopiae. RIC 241 (R2) variant (bust l.)
     
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  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..my sole Phillip l coin ...antoninianus featuring Annon.... Phillip l (The Arab) Annon antoninanus 3.67gms 001.JPG Phillip l (The Arab) Annon antoninanus 3.67gms 003.JPG
     
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  19. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Congrats, Curtis! I don't have an ADVENTVS, so like others, I'll show the Philip's I do have.

    An Annona sestertius I just got last week...
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    And a Felicitas antoninianus I picked up earlier this year...
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  20. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice coin and write-up, Curtisimo. Very informative indeed. The OP seems to be on the heavy side for these, which I'll address below (without knowing anything about why this is).

    I have three Philip ADVENTVS antoniniani, which is kind of an accident - I like Philip's coinage very much, and if one comes up cheap ($20 or less) I will bid on them. This is how I wound up with three of them (none of them as nice as the OP). This is what happens when you bottom-feed.

    Here is the grouping. A couple things that I find peculiar about these -

    The top one appears to be made out of worse silver than usual - it is possibly even a counterfeit, or else just darkened more than usual for these. It is also the lightest of the bunch at 3.21 grams. My photos make it look lighter than it is; it is quite dark in hand.

    The one on the bottom left is also quite dull. However, it is the heaviest of the bunch at 4.51 grams (but not as heavy as Curtisimo's). The flan diameter is about the same as the others, but it is thicker. I have seen CT discussions where extra-heavy antoniniani have been discussed - they seem to be fairly abundant, but mysterious. Or maybe 3.2-4.5 grams is just the normal acceptable weight range for these? Heck if I know.

    The one on the bottom right looks more "typical" for Philip in terms of fabric, color, etc. It weighs 3.70 grams. It has toning/encrustation issues that I find appealing, although many would not. None of these have that bright-white look so many antoniniani have from this period.

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  21. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Thanks for all the kind words everyone and great pile-on coins!

    Thanks for the compliment :) I could easily say the same thing about the quality of your collection my friend.

    Nice Philips! I really like the big Viminacium bronzes of Philip also. I got mine for about $10 and it would be hard to point at a coin I like better on a per dollar basis!
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    Thanks brother!

    That would make a pretty cool and relatively affordable sub collection. 3rd century ADVENTVS types.

    Nice Sestertius! You are getting really good with your in hand photos and cropping so that the photos make up a nice composition. Very distinctive of a Justin Lee coin photo!

    Very interesting commentary about the weight of these. Thank you. Some really nice examples to illustrate your talking points as well!
     
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