It’s original or fake help

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Moda888, Aug 27, 2019.

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What do u think

  1. Fake

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  2. Original

    2 vote(s)
    40.0%
  1. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    Hello all
    I have today this coin

    I think it’s
    Coinage of the Republic of Venice

    But I am confuse it’s fake?

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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Moda888, Your photos are awful :eek:! Please take better photos so Coin Talk members can see what they are looking at. What is the diameter and weight of the coin o_O?
     
  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    After you take better images, and crop out the 95% of non-coin background, try posting the coin on CT's World Coins board along with the coin's size, weight, and how you acquired it. I don't think there are many collectors of these ducats here on the Ancients board.
     
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  6. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    Its a forgery of a Zecchino of Alvise IV (1763-1778).

    Barry Murphy
     
  7. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    How can you tell from these images?
     
  8. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    0EDEA995-A98B-476E-B78F-C18E743D9679.jpeg 461270F5-9A10-4A55-8272-6AADDC17B0C1.jpeg 2AC45A34-30F4-424C-88A9-A6FB7A0FE11D.jpeg C1EEA789-3748-43EE-B1BD-A0126AE85BDE.jpeg The images can be enlarged, even on my phone. It’s not close in terms of style or fabric.
     
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  9. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

  10. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I see your point though I wonder if it might be one of the Crusader duchies in Greece copies which vary considerably from the Venetian originals but served as models for the Greek ones.
     
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  11. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    The crusades were long over in the late 1700’s.

    The Chios and other Greek imitations copy earlier doges from the 1400’s. There are some later Levantine copies but I don’t recall them continuing into the 1800’s.

    I’ll have to check the references tomorrow.

    Barry Murphy
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2019
  12. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Yes, I realize that this one was far too late to be copied by the region of Achaia.
     
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