1975 P Dime Teeth Marks

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Scottinvegas, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Scottinvegas

    Scottinvegas Member

    Hello all I ordered some mint sets from ebay and on one of the dimes it looks like what ever machine puts the teeth on the side of the coin slipped and took a bite out of the top of the coin. Was wondering what its called when this happens?

    Also the coin was pulled out of the original mint cello by me and there was 0 damage to the wrapper so I think that cuts out PMD. I posted the same question on a coin group on facebook and members are too busy trying refute this was mint damage and less concerned with the actual question. One member even said it was from someone using a heat tool to reseal the cello. If someone can tell me how a heat tool can make evenly distributed .5 mm deep gouge marks please explain that one to me. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  3. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Forget whatever heat tool you're talking about.

    It happened at the Mint but it's not a Mint error. It happened after the coin was struck by the cellophane wrapping machine. I have a couple of them...

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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yes, we've seen images here before of sets coming from the mint with this kind of damage. Unfortunately, now that you've taken it out of the cellophane yourself, you don't have much of a case for returning it to the eBay seller.
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    FYI @Scottinvegas

    Those are not teeth on the edge of the coin. That is called a "reeded edge". It is formed by the retaining collar while the planchet is in the coining chamber. The coin metal expands and forms the edge when the hammer die strikes the planchet.

    Chris
     
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  6. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I don't think he's talking about the reeded edge. He's talking about the teeth marks caused by the lamination/cellophane machine.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    "Hello all I ordered some mint sets from ebay and on one of the dimes it looks like what ever machine puts the teeth on the side of the coin slipped and took a bite out of the top of the coin."

    So, what "machine" puts the teeth on the side of the coin?

    Retaining collar, right?

    Chris
     
  8. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Yep you're right, I read it wrong.
     
  9. Scottinvegas

    Scottinvegas Member

    Awesome thank you for that.i have been looking all over for an actual answer
     
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  10. Scottinvegas

    Scottinvegas Member

    Oh it’s from the lamination machine then?
     
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  11. Scottinvegas

    Scottinvegas Member

     
  12. Scottinvegas

    Scottinvegas Member

    Does this give any value to the coin?
     
  13. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    No, it takes value away from the coin.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a Mint error but a packaging error.
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No big deal. I do it all the time!

    Chris
     
  16. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    I should start a new thread: Post Your Mint Packaging Errors
     
  17. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    My humble opinion is packaging error. Possibly by the cellophane crimping equipment. Theory: the dime was struck by the crimping plate simultaneously pinched or pushed the coin into the pocket. This would explain why there was no visible damage to the cellophane. The spacing of the "teeth marks" is larger then the reeded edges so I eliminated is as the source.
     
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  18. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    You think?
     
  19. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's a packaging error.

    Notice that the lines on the coin match
    the 'lines' surrounding the plastic square
    where the coin is.

    The coin was laying over the sealing machine
    in that area, receiving the imprint. PMD
     
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  20. Kentucky

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  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    And the acronym would be...….PYMP Errors.

    Chris
     
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