Anyone know how would this error be categorized after being graded?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Bargainbidder, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    So many strikes on reverse how do they determine how many? Obverse has lettering on Lincoln's lapel and bow tie has been over stamped but can't make out what it is. Reverse has a shadow figure along with the multiple strikes I'm guessing but any information would be appreciated. 20190812_031847.jpg 20190812_031540.jpg 20190811_152631.jpg 20190812_033353.jpg 20190812_031847.jpg 20190812_031540.jpg 20190812_033353.jpg 20190811_152631.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That's not a mint error.
    You would send a true error to have it Attributed not just graded. You can grade any coin.
    The Obverse has coin wrapper crimping maching damage and the Reverse has some other kind of damage.. Not multi-struck
     
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  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Where did you find this cent?
    Did you buy it directly from a US MINT facility?
    Or did you find it in pocket change, or from the bank, or a coin roll from a 3rd party supplier ?

    The cent has multiple post mint damage on it - meaning many damaging "strikes" from after it left a US MINT facility.

    The circular marks are from a coin rolling machine, at least once if not multiple times. Multiple general hit marks from really anything from other coins to who knows what. Looks like someone was scrawling a phrase behind his head.

    backside looks like someone glued another cent to it at one time, or struck it with a hammer.

    99.9% of the stuff "you've never seen before" is because you haven't cataloged all the junk that happens with coins made for commerce/circulation. That 99.9% is just damage of one thing or another.
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I would categorize it as "junk".
     
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  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Ditto
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If the OP submitted it for grading and attribution, it would come back "MS Details - Damaged" with the attribution "Wasted Money".

    Chris
     
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  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The OP is 60. Do you think he will live long enough to search hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of pennies?

    Chris
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Only if he starts now.
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Damaged, damaged and damaged. It's all damage caused after it left event and it's only worth face value. Spend them.
     
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  11. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    It was from pocket change clawcoins, and have come across alot of that year with the same circle mark on the obverse from the same mint. Through out my working career I had a habit of going through my change and if something caught my attention as odd I would put it aside in either a holder or plastic baggie to keep them seperated from each other in plastic tupperware containers. Didn't have time to really look at them back then till I started getting closer to retirement and only working one job. The internet and these forums are so helpful to find out the information people such as yourself give that either have me put the coin in question aside to have graded or in this case take to a coin dealer and have them check if coin is legit. I've read about all the fakes and how people took advantage of novice collectors such as myself
    Coin itself as I re-examine it and considering the force obverse would need to make it the reverse would show something but taking to coin dealer to verify. I do appreciate everyone's post because over the years the oddity collection has accumulated to a closet full of stacked tupperware.
     
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  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I hoard all my change on/off since the 1970s.

    All the pennies go into tupperware per decade, except for a split of the copper/zincoln year which has 2 containers to prevent the zinc rot white stuff from getting all over coins.
    I have container (nickels, dimes, qtrs, etc) of white stuff from zinc rot lincolns that I then have to scrub the stuff off - sooner or later.
    My nickels/dimes go into a single large container - plastic ammo box.
    Quarters are separated from pre 98 to post 98 $50 jelly containers.
    Halves are in paper rolls in a container.
    Canadian is separated too.

    I just got a 1959 Canadian cent in change from lunch.
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    I'm not really into searching for "errors & discoveries" though I do have a list of errors that I search for of particular years. Just the major errors. All the minor microscopic stuff I have no interest in.

    Actually back in the early days I put my coins in empty chewing tobacco/bubble gum round tins and those small tea/flavored coffee box shape tins, and also plastic bags. I'm wondering what the "scent/pollutants" have done to the surface of those coins now over time.
     
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  13. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Nice, I wish I had seperated mine in same fashion because going just through the first tupperware has me separating them. I would just look at what I had collected during the days work quickly and if something just appeared odd or even at times felt different in holder or baggie it would go. The rest I would use the next day in effort to keep pants from being weighed down. Surprising how much change a person picks up in a day before ATM's became common use. These came out of first container and the rest I am actually putting in holders to leave kids and grandkids with my curse to look through...Ha!!! 20190804_215131.jpg
     
  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Only thing is that not all Coin Dealers are mint error specialists. Some may even kick you out of their shop for wasting thier time!
     
  15. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  16. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    True paddyman98 but most dealers have the resources to lead a customer in the right direction. Back in my youth the closest thing to technology was my TI calculator I used in my calculus class. I have been going to my dealer for decades to buy currency of coins and paper so a trust has been built over the years. And you are correct, they do miss certain things at times such as the Presidential Prestige set of 1983 from San Fransisco mint I purchased from him. Photo's I sent to Heritage came back with a response to have graded and they would be happy to list on their auction's. Heritage only offer's their services for item's such as coins when they appraise it to sell between $5-10k so you never know what you may have even as a dealer.
     

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  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    there be some garbage disposal/lawn motor damaged items there. Road rash, heavy wear.

    Look at your Prestige cent. Looks like the surface is getting plating bubbles with Mechanical Doubling. Sell it before it cannibalizes itself.
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  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    My dad had one of those large plastic water jugs full of change that he filled up over the years.

    We tried moving it a few years ago. It cracked and out spilled who knows how many years of filling that up. All the coins are in old coffee cans now.
     
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  19. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    Appraisal from Heritage and being they are experts in the field indicates your opinion is as in your own words cime from a garbage disposal or kicked out from a lawn mower. You must have been one of those that tried to get rich buying off Ebay when the error coin craze was taken advantage of by fakes. Feel sorry for you and how it shaped your demeanor but on the other hand, if it wasn't for attitudes such as yours that errors would be seen as you describe and thrown back into circulation allowing others such as myself to profit so a big "Thank you" and keep up the good work.
     
  20. Bargainbidder

    Bargainbidder Well-Known Member

    My mother had been given around $300 in Morgan silver dollars from her father before he had passed in 1967. She used it to buy my oldest brothers first car in 1970 right before silver went to $50 an ounce. She always told us that story and hated the 64 Ford galaxy my brother drove...I use to play with them as a kid and she gave me 10 that were left from buying the car. I have them still and are more a momentous to me so I haven't even looked up their value. And you're right about the milk containers being used by parents...lol
     
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