Pawn Shop Score! MS 1904 O, Turns out it was VAM!

So I took a bunch of silver I had to a pawn shop that I bought for 14 when it was low to try and sell for 17. I had around half a key. They tried to buy it for 13$ and OZ!!!!!! anyway I turned that offer down but this Morgan caught my eye, and I never, I mean never buy raw coins, but it looked real nice almost PL and would grade out to around a 64-65. 1904 O is one of my favorite dates as well as my fathers so I picked it up. Looked up the vams for that year and what do you know, it was VAM-28 Tripled/Doubled Reverse Legend. After about looking at the coin for 15 minutes with the loop I determined it was indeed that VAM.

 

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Looks cleaned to Meow.

 

I can't see any of the PUP's on yours.

@messydesk - What do you say, John?

Chris

 

Hope you got a good one, trust these guys to know.

 

I don't think that reverse photo is clear enough to discern the PUPs, but I'm no VAMmer.

I think I see signs of cleaning, too, or at least dip residue. I was going to say "clearly worn and polished", but then I remembered the reputation of 1904-O for weak strikes.

 

Looks whizzed and cleaned.

 

Maybe it's just the photos, but that looks like some pretty pronounced wear in her hair starting above the ear.

 

too hard to judge the grade from these pics

 

Try making new pictures with the camera/phone braced and focused with good lighting and post new full sized pictures.

 

and take it out of the holder before you take pictures

 

I don't think its cleaned at all, it was just a weak strike and 1904 O's are known for that. There are no signs of cleaning whatsoever. It has barely any scratch marks on it.

 

Better & looks polished

 

how can you tell?

 

well it is what it is. doesn't look polished to me, if that was the case there would be a lot more scratch marks. If this coin was well struck it would be a 65 no doubt.

 

comparing to my other 63s and 64s they all have about the same luster.

 

Does it have luster or is it shiny? There is a difference. Examine it with a 5 or 10 X glass in sunlight as you tilt it and I bet you see LOTS of little scratches.

 

Just looked at it with a loop, fields are clean no scratches at all besides the regular bag marks. It has luster, its not shiny.

 

I wouldn't have bought it if I thought it was cleaned lol

 

I'm not seeing the sort of halos I'd expect on a polished coin. I do see what looks like dipping residue. I also see what might be luster in the fields, but not on the devices -- but from still photos like this, it's pretty hard to judge.