1960 Phili proof nickel . Triple possibly quad hubbing?

I intitially intended to inquire about the appearance of the stairs on Monticello on the reverse of this 1960 proof nickel. That was until the lettering caught my eye. On reverse United States of America is showing strong tripling throughout the text , however e Pluribus Unum appears to have quadrupling upon closer inspection. Did my best with the photos, I have recently gotten a couple better lenses but the proof's gleam and the lettering are tough to get a clear shot of. I've also got the obverse to check out still, anxious to see what I may find there. Any thoughts and criticism is always appreciated, be gemtle.

 

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Oh boy

 

An answer like that from you leaves me wondering just what could this be, I'm afraid to ask.

 

Hoping it's not sarcasm. : )

 

Gonna leave me hanging? I've got my suspicion of what it is but saying it may jynx me. If it's what I think or hope, then how I acquired it you'll be tickled to hear, possibly.

 

I'm following along on this one.
Could my eyes be deceiving me?

 

I'm feeling alone and abandoned. Have you any thoughts masterswimmer as to any possible listed variety it may be? I just don't want to be the one to say it and then be obviously wrong, not sure I can handle that level of humiliation today .lol

 

I'm not nearly schooled enough to render an opinion on this. What I do know is what I see. I'm anxious to hear the experts weigh in on it.

Good luck. This could be fun.

 

Too much info dude.

 

From what I've been studying there is only one thing it could be. I can't make that call confidently but I know nothing else it could be. Paddyman is staying mysteriously and mischievously silent, maybe he'll weigh in after his coffee and morning news.

 

Are you sure the reflection of the fields is not tricking your eye into seeing doubled dies?

 

Don't forget that proofs are struck 2 or more times to bring up the design. I'm not seeing any split serifs. Look at some of of the letters in UNITED STATES. They look flat and slightly "squished". The coin could have moved slightly between striking or it could have been mechanical doubling.

I don't see anything to convince me it was a true doubled die.

BTW - look at what time @paddyman98 responded. In the past, he's said that he's grouchy before his first cup of coffee

 

I've matched the markers on Brian's varieties site, as well as what v.v. gives . I've compared to a couple examples and the nature of the tripling and quadrupling is identical a flater appearance being evident, the areas of tripling and areas of quadrupling are also a precise match.. hang tight and I'll get pics of the markers from both v.v. and Brian's and I'll let you weigh in . Thanks again for the input, always appreciated.

 

Well , I am in with hoopster, on the MD+ reflections as it appears. The resources use flat lighting and here it is angled and intensely direct, so if wrong, thats fine, just doesn't look like VV, but I don't do Jeffersons, stopped at Indian. Jim

 

Not an error coin: flat-field doubling, machine doubling, or looking at the coin too long too late at night, causing doubling to appear.

 

I was thinking the same thing Walter.....Actually...I could hear this sound in the background....It sounded like, tick....tick...tick...tick

 

There's a lot of reflection on most of your photos. It's easier to check when you have the coin in hand. Check against these sites and tell us what you think you have and possibly one of the experts can confirm it.
http://varietyvista.com/04b JN DD Vol 2/DDOs 1960.htm 13 DDO's
http://varietyvista.com/04b JN DD Vol 2/DDRs 1960.htm 19 DDR's
https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/33 28 WDDO's and 45 WDDR's (all proof). (All Variety Vista are proof coins).
I don't think @paddyman98 was being sarcastic. IMO it's too many to look through without having the coin in hand. Very time consuming and tedious.
Please keep us informed. Thank you.
PS. On your post you said you were going to inquire on the steps. I'm under the impression all proof Jefferson nickels are supposed to be fully struck with Full Steps. Someone correct me if this isn't the case.

 

Sure they're not going to satisfy, but I did finally get around to it. I'll try for better.

 

Right, I don't check my coins by my photos, loop and mucroac, my photography equipment is a little dated. I know most of photodont convince alot of but I'm pretty confident in any claim I make , not always right by long shot but I try to only proclaim a coin to be one thing or another if I'm absolutely sure. For example, I had a 1983 d do alot of scrutiny over my pictures, the critics were adamint I was wrong. Sent it off to pcgs and it was graded vf and given the DDO 01 attribution. Sold it for $134 to guy at my flea market. I don't let people get me down, it's definitely a drag that there are few here who send any positivity like saying things like I hope you check it out and it good or looks close be sure to double check everthever, good luck.. You are one of the few who takes a non bias approach whether you're skeptical or not, good on you. Oh ya, the steps, they look full,, I'll post a pic and let me know if what u think, hang tight.

 

There you are.