Coins of the States of the German Confederation in the 19th. Century

Saxony 1866 Pfennig with a cool die crack.

 

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I only have these 2 AE examples. Love all the big silver coins you folks have posted!

 

Me like!

 

Me too. That is a superb coin!

 

May be. But it is nice to see it again

A very nice selection.
The 1841 Gedenkgulden (celebrating 25 years of rule) was the very first coin I ever bought for my collection of german States. Yours is a lot better than mine was.

 

I agree. Bremen has some nice coins! My dad is a locksmith , so I might be a touch bias to those awesome keys.

 

The Principality of Waldeck and Pyrmont was another of the smaller member states of the Deutscher Bund. It was located next to the Kingdom of Hannover and ruled by a prince from his residence at Arolsen, which is also where some of the principality's coins were struck.
Waldeck and Pyrmont was eventually formally absorbed into the Kingdom of Prussia in 1868.

Here are some of my coins from Waldeck.

Waldeck und Pyrmont 1/6 Taler 1810:


Waldeck und Pyrmont 1/3 Taler 1824:

 

I love the Wappen. I find them all so intriguing. I can’t wait to get back to my collection in the US and share some of what I’ve got! Less than a month out!

 

Great....now I want to find one.

 

Basically and with regard to many competences yes, but formally it continued to be "independent" until the early (Pyrmont) and late (Waldeck) 1920s. It even issued coins in the Deutsches Reich (5M silver and 20M gold, in 1903). The formal annexation of Waldeck was commemorated in 1929 ...

Christian

 

Wurtemberg 1868 Kreuzer

 

My first purchase with my hobby budget reinstated naturally, I blew my budget first go. Hannover 1866-B 1 Groschen.

I’m going to do an GTG later, so no one spoil it, please!

 

That's an awesome coin @Seattlite86

 

I like the way you think...

 

I agree with you all - that is a very appealing coin, Brandon. Amazing luster!
So glad to see you enjoy German coinage so much.
(only 76290 examples were minted at Hannover in that year).

 

Another early coin from Waldeck u. Pyrmont -
By far not in the same league as Brandon' s coin grade-wise, but a rarity in the Waldeck series, this 1 MarienGroschen from 1820.

This is only the 4th. example I have seen in the last 20 years or so, so I was very happy to find it. This is a good example of the coins which as a collector of German states attract me the most - minor coins which circulated in the early years of the 19th. century.

 

Another coin from Waldeck - 1/24th Thaler dated 1818.

Waldeck issued in parallel minor coinage in both the Thaler as well as the Groschen denomination (later also pfennigs). This coin had the value of 1 Groschen.

 

In case everyone is interested in doing a GTG on the Groschen: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/gtg-1866-1-groschen-hannover.343956/#post-3638092

 

One of the problems which faced by the Confederation was the multiplicity of different forms of currency which each used.
Not only was the minor, divisionary coinage in use different (Heller, Pfennige Groschen, Kreuzer), but also the 'big' coins were different - i.e those states which used the Taler and those which used the Gulden.
The Taler was predominant in Prussia and other States, while the Gulden was predominant in the South.

The German Customs Union (1833) attempted in 1838 through the 'Dresdner Convention' to remedy the situation by introducing a new denomination, the Doppeltaler (Double Thaler) which was valued and denominated also at 3 1/2 Gulden. This provided a common unit of payment for use throughout the Confederation.
The problem of what to do about the minor coinage, however, remained.

The Doppeltaler was a very interesting coin - massive and weighing in excess of 37 grams. It was not much loved by the people, presumably due to its size, who dubbed it the "Champagnertaler".

Size comparison- Doppeltaler and a current IKE Dollar:

 

A small collection of Doppeltaler.

Grand Duchy of Baden: