1981 P Washington head DD?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by DON SCHIFFGENS, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. DON SCHIFFGENS

    DON SCHIFFGENS New Member

    I’m new to this site and I look forward to any input from anyone regarding the coin in question. I’m hoping to garner opinions from some of the more seasoned collectors out there. The top of the head below the “E” is where it appears to begin and is where it’s most visible and continues all the way down to the bottom of the pony tail. The mint Mark is also a bit strange looking to me, perhaps it’s just damaged. Are my eyes playing tricks on me? Anyhow, please feel free to respond and comment.
     

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't see anything. Would you mind telling me what you mean by "it"? Is "it" a crack or gouge or lamination defect?

    Chris
     
  4. DON SCHIFFGENS

    DON SCHIFFGENS New Member

    I’m sorry, it appears to me that Washington’s head is double stamped. Am I incorrect in this assessment? In the first picture the evidence of a double stamp appears to be most prevalent below the “E” and the “R” at the crown of Washington’s head.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, if it had been struck more than once, you would expect to see a second impression of the entire coin. I think what you are referring to is a "doubled die", but I don't see a DDO (Doubled Die Obverse).

    While it is possible that there may be machine doubling present (which is not uncommon), I think you may just be seeing a reflection of light.

    Chris
     
  6. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    It looks like machine doubling. Flat and shelf like
     
  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Deterioration Doubling: A circumstance that occurs from die deterioration whereby the devices show a duplicate image on a coin. As metal must flow into the recessed areas of the die during the strike to form the devices on a coin, the edges and corners of the design elements on the die begin to wear. Eventually, this wear shows as a doubled image on the coins they strike.
     
  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Most of the time when you see a flat shelf like line around the bust head it is indicative of mechanical doubling.
     
  9. DON SCHIFFGENS

    DON SCHIFFGENS New Member

    Obviously this coin isn’t in very good condition, however I was wondering if there was any added value to the coin due to mechanical doubling?
     
  10. DON SCHIFFGENS

    DON SCHIFFGENS New Member

    Thank you for your input, I’ll look into this.
     
  11. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    Looks like a "spender" to me.
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    No added value Don, because it wasn't a result of mint production, rather a result of bad judgement in that the die wasn't replaced earlier ( Die deterioration )and the mechanical process was slightly defective( mechanical doubling) , so just damage...spend it . Jim
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    NVD, no value doubling. Looks more like MD or machine doubling. Common. Welcome to CT.
     
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