Is this a 56 or 58 flying eagle?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dalladalla80, Jul 31, 2019.

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1856 or 1858?

  1. 1856

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
  2. 1858

    8 vote(s)
    88.9%
  1. Dalladalla80

    Dalladalla80 Member

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  3. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter? That $80 (77.61 + 2.99 shipping) can be better invested in a descent FE.
     
  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The lettering style of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is not that of 1856. So it is clearly an 1858 Large letters. He's just fishing for someone who wants to fill their 1856 album slot with a "maybe coin." :facepalm:
     
  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    False advertising to suggest it could even be an 1856.
    The odds of it being an 1856 are 0%.
    It's just a ploy to get some fools to jack up the bidding.
    A ruse, a trick, a scam, a sham.
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Large letter 1958 in my book.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    1858CentO.JPG 1858CentR.JPG

    What's left of the last digit looks like an "8" to me. Also what's left of the "5" next to it looks the "5" on the 1858 Flyer.
     
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  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but yours is a small letters variety, and the coin in question is obviously a large letters. I'm sure you knew that, though.
     
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  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If you draw a line down from the “hat” on the “5,” it runs next to the ball of the digit on the 1856 Flyer. On the 1858, it cuts into it. This rule applies on all 1856 and 1858 cents.
     
  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    This damaged coin isn't worth 1/10th the price they are asking.
    EBay gets worse every day.
     
  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Either way, save your money for better.
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can go to my LCS and buy this coin in better condition for $10.00. This is an insane price for this coin.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Instead of talking about odds, how about talking about specific markers on the coin which show that it can’t be an 1856 cent?

    You use the same logic for other rarities, such as the 1943 bronze. There could be a genuine one sitting in the junk bin at my LCS. But if I showed it here, you would say there is an absolutely 0% chance of it being real simply because it is a newly-discovered rarity. Such thinking helps no one. Specific markers help everyone.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The 1856 and the 1858 large letters both have the AM joined, but on the 1856 the center bar of the E's have large serifs that are joined to the upper and lower serifs. On the 58 large letters the serifs are smaller and not joined. The ebal coin has small serifs.
     
  16. Dalladalla80

    Dalladalla80 Member

    Appreciate all the advice and info on how to make the determination!
     
  17. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    There are better ones offered (other auctions) on the same page. And you would want one that you can see the date, as well as other details.
     
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