Bad fake coin in fake PCGS holder.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. Guy Ferguson

    Guy Ferguson Member

    The coin that shows next to my posting is a 1880 over 79. I had the coin since the 70's and never knew that it was an error coin. A few years back I bought a scanner that can do high resolution and that's when I found out. Before that, I tried using a 30x loop and couldn't see it.
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    If you google PCGS coin facts. You can find what a RD, RB, and BN cent looks like. The above are no longer used as soon as the coin is deemed AU or less.
     
  4. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Coins that are slabbed as RD can and do tone in the slab. So it's entirely possible that a coin in a current RD slab would not regrade as RD today or in the future.
     
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  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I’ve got to say: the holder is far more deceptive than the coin, to me. I really hate having to authenticate plastic, but, here we are.
     
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  6. Goes to show that you should buy the coin, not the slab...
     
  7. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    Yes, I would like to know how you know the coin is fake.
     
  8. Coin may not be fake, but it is not what is in the holder by label...
     
  9. Tusky Ranger

    Tusky Ranger Active Member

    Thats the first thing I noticed; good catch!
     
  10. ddoomm1

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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    If you can't tell that the coin is fake, you need to do some learnin'.
     
  12. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    When I purchased a raw 1909-S VDB a number of years back I definitely researched what to look for. I matched the date/mint mark to one of the four known obverse dies and also scrutinized the VDB on the reverse.
     
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  13. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    That's what we're here for!
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Coin is absolutely fake. It's not even close.
     
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  15. Guy Ferguson

    Guy Ferguson Member

    I agree, I need to lean as well. Please point out the things that tell you the 1909 is fake.
     
  16. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

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  19. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

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  20. Guy Ferguson

    Guy Ferguson Member

    Those are great sites, I guess my eyes need more training. From the pictures, the S looks a little off to me and I couldn't tell anything from the VDB, am I in the ballpark?
     
  21. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    The S doesn't seem to fit any of the four obverse dies. It's closest to #3 but not close enough to the 9 in my opinion. Better photos would help. I can't see much of the VDB in the reverse photo.
     
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