lets see if I got this grading thing down

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  1. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    63 Sounds good to me.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Might be the pics, but I'd say AU58.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    63 sounds about right.
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    No way to tell for sure from your images.
    The marks on Franklin's cheek probably keep it from MS-65.
    So at best, MS-64.
    But AU is certainly a possibility.
     
  7. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Frankies are tough to grade.
    But I'd be cool with a 63 on that, providing the fields are not being washed out by the scanner light.
    ;)
     
  8. tdec1000

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  9. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Nice Franlin, 63, 64, around there IMHO. AU is also a possibility, but for me it is tough to tell by the pics. But IMHO, MS-64 at the most, on a good day. ;) Very nice coin IMHO none the less. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  10. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    thanks for the help guys
     
  11. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    I think you got it.
     
  12. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    lets see...........

    from the pic high au possible 60
     
  13. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    I appreciate everyon's input as much as stainless does, I'm sure, but could you give a reason for your grades, such as, because if this or that it would or would not grade any higher or at least this.

    Thanks to all.

    Allen
     
  14. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    I thought an MS-63 because it is a very nice coin but has a few light scratches and thats about it.....

    stainless

    BTW: thanks for the opinions so far guys
     
  15. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    The coin picture is blurry, but it appears to have full mint luster and looks fully struck with nice bell lines. The marks on the cheek distract it from being any higher then MS63. I see some roll friction and I think that's why some say 'possible AU'.

    If this coin is AU58, by some rare chance, then it appears better than many MS coins.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I said AU because it appears there may be minor wear on the coin, particularly the hair. But given the pics, one cannot be sure.

    And there are a great many AU58 coins that look a lot better than some MS63 coins. That is almost common.
     
  17. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    First thanks for explaining why you choose that grade. Explanations from experienced people such as yourself are gold for me...the person wanting to truly understand and learn to be a good , no, great grader.

    The above quote still spins my head even though I'm trying desperately to become at least skilled at utilizing the Market Grading System versus the Technical Grading System. I understand why you say what you have said above, yet I find myself being so technical when grading coins, mostly my own. I'm sure over time I'll come around.

    Thanks again for your invaluable input.

    Allen
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Allen - the reason so many AU coins can look better than low graded MS coins is really quite simple - and it has absolutely nothing to do with the grading really.

    Many coins graded MS63, especially larger coins like dollars and halves, can have literally dozens of bag marks on them yet have no wear. So they are graded as MS.

    But take an AU58 coin that has maybe 1 or two bag marks, with just the slightest wear on the high points that is hardly noticeable - and which one looks better ?
     
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