Please double check this 1970 s 1c ddo (?)

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Is this a ddo

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  1. Richard Holm

    Richard Holm New Member

    Found this in the blue pack of 1970 mint coins S ddo (?) all letters.
     

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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Sorry NO, welcome to CT
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't see any doubling, either. The "T" in LIBERTY appears to have taken a hit while in circulation and is PMD.

    Chris
     
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  5. Richard Holm

    Richard Holm New Member

    Is in mint pack when get my camera I'll post more
     
  6. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    I thought the same thing. He took the picture through the cellophane packaging.

    @Richard Holm take a picture of it outside the packaging. I don't see doubling on the coin either.
     
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  7. Richard Holm

    Richard Holm New Member

    Not ready to remove it yet. Camera will be better than phone.
     
  8. Dillan

    Dillan The sky is the limit !

    Welcome to Coin Talk , I do see some doubling of the letters , I think this is caused by a worn die , or is maybe referred to as hub doubling. Someone will correct me if I used the wrong term . I am still learning like lots of members are. Not a DDO . Dillan
     
  9. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    ...awaiting pics of the coin sans packaging to assess...Spark
     
  10. Dillan

    Dillan The sky is the limit !

    For some reason that coin looks like it was circulated , could you possibly give us a picture of the packaging also . I just curious as the coin looks damaged in places like a circulated coin . It is possible that a lot of that may well be on the plastic . Thank You . dillan
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Hub doubling is the collectable kind of doubling. The "worthless" forms of doubling include MD (machine doubling) and wear doubling from an old die.
     
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  12. Dillan

    Dillan The sky is the limit !

    @Kentucky , Thank you for the information , I learn something new every day and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me and others . Dillan
     
  13. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I hesitated in saying die deterioration. I only say that because MD is one of the biggest reasons for Die deterioration. It is a movement in the chamber. These repeated movements leed to further die deterioration, and every stage along the way can be called a different form of Mechanical worthless doubling.

    I think the coin we are looking at is interesting from a study point of view.
    I hope the Op can give us some updated Photo's.
    @Richard Holm
     
  15. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    I have a 1970 US Uncirculated coins Mint set and it only has coins minted at Philadelphia and Denver. Curious to know if S mint coins came pre packaged from the Mint or were they packaged by a third party? Or, did they come packaged by the US Mint in a different set?
     
  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The 1970 UC sets had the business strike S mint cent.

    The proofs came in a sealed hard plastic case.
     
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  17. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your reply. I haven't looked at the set in years. Didn't even remember if the S mint cent was there.
     
  18. Richard Holm

    Richard Holm New Member

    Got my camera today. here are first pics of 1970s ddo and ddr.

    whatever you say, let me have it with humor please.
     

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  19. Richard Holm

    Richard Holm New Member

    more 1970s ddo/ddr
     

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  20. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    @Richard Holm ...There are 53 DDO and 6 DDR listed at Wexler, disregard the DDRs, they are all proof and your coin is not.

    Based on your new cam pics, I do not see any indications of doubling that match Wexlers' listings. In all fairness, I may have missed something, but you need to check all the DDOs to see if your coin matches up with Wexler. Again, disregard the proof DDOs.

    And, if you don't find a match at Wexler, try Variety Vista.

    Your coin is MS61, imo, and a large date...I have tried to inject some humor for you, but, alas, I have failed miserably...Spark
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Nice looking photos.
    I thing that your coin has some die deterioration.
    I can't find any matches to the MM placement.
     
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