Grade my Shield Nic, wouldcha?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Catbert, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Under a 10x loupe, I do not see any horizontal line wear. However, the upper middle leaves (second bunch) on the right side do not fully show the middle vine/stem (?) line which may indicate slight wear.
     
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  3. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    AU- 55. Nice coin!
     
  4. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    Then perhaps it is just the reflection of the light in the photgraph that I am seeing and interpreting as wear. It is always easier to judge the coin when it is in hand and under strong light and magnification. Based on what you said I would like to upgrade my opinion to:

    AU-55 details scratched
     
  5. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    If the scratches were not there on the shield and nicks on the rev, the coin would push an easy 64.

    MS-62

    Beautiful coin.
    I have a soft spot for these.
    :)

    Where's Mark ?
    :D
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I suspect that this is simply an area of weak strike, very common on these coins in my experience...Mike
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Why right here - I already posted my opinion. OH wait - you mean the other Mark with more knowledge than me. :)

    Personally I think several people hit the nature of the coin already - to me the coins always look flat in pictures, even some of the proofs. Also weak strikes does account for the leaves because I see no wear what so ever. I can't say for sure about it being dipped causing the flatness - but to me it looks original and very nice. If I owned the coined it would be listed as MS details scratched - and it looks like the filled 2 variety. Just my own opinion.
     
  8. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    AU details, damaged, net XF

    At first glance, I thought it was MS. It looks like rub on the middle leaf, right side, 2nd bunch from the top. Possibly some rub on the shield lines near top immediately below the cross. It's possible both are only strike weakness and it really is MS, but I doubt it.

    Nice champagne color.
     
  9. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Looks like some interesting strike doubling in the motto - "I" in IN, "O" in GOD, "W" in WE, and "TR" in TRUST. Or is it possible that's some recut letters ?! Cool die variety, perhaps ?

    Quick ! Anybody got a cherrypicker's guide handy ?
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well - I do and I would not mind seeing a close up of the last 82. It could possible be a repunched date, but certainly not the 3/2 type from 1883. The motto is machine doubling which is common on shield nickels. I still think ms quality cause to me it just looks like weak strike, but without the coin in hand it is hard to be 100% sure.
     
  11. Freddypm

    Freddypm Member


    Wow I agree looks AU-ish to me. Nice one!
     
  12. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Regarding the "2", it does appear "fat" or full. I will not be able to post another pic until next week (my camera is out on loan).

    The motto does have lots of doubling which is really cool to me. Looking at this under a loupe is wild.

    You guys are absolutely great. I'm learning a lot about grading and varieties and, after looking at several other coin forums, this one is the best IMHO. Thanks for all your great comments! :)
     
  13. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie


    It's because GDJMSP beats us, when we are wrong.
    :hammer:
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I now know exactly what grade this coin is. It is VF, XF, AU or MS, original or cleaned and somewhere between a strong strike and a weak strike. It has been a long time since I have seen this many opinions on one coin.
     
  15. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    .....and as the owner of the coin and a rabid, newly "minted" collector, I'm loving it! Kiss
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    With a BIG stick !! [​IMG]
     
  17. pa1979

    pa1979 Member

    I just bought the book today!! Its nice to see an example and put the book to use.

    "On characteristics and appearance: Slight weakness in the horizontal shield stripes is normal; otherwise, other areas are usually sharp. Many have the 2 (1882) filled in (some of these have been incorrectly called overdates)."

    On the doubling in the motto......Could this be what is sometimes called Longacre Doubling??? Can anyone chime in here?

    Nice coin!
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yes - I believe it is what is called Longacre doubling.
     
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