1914-D...real? Or Not?

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  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

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  3. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    In my opinion there looks to be something funny with the mintmark. It looks to be crooked and not the shape of a "D" on a genuine 14-D Lincoln. I'm not aware of any various styles of mintmarks during this date.....does anyone know of any? I've always known of a genuine 14-D to have a shape of a small triangle inside the "D". I'd say its not real. I believe I'd stay away from this one.
     
  4. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    see anything in common?
     

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  5. jmc7983

    jmc7983 Senior Member

    WITH NO SPECIFIC GRADING ,
    SO PLEASE LOOK AT THE PICTURES
    USE YOUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE
    '' YOU BE THE JUDGE ''

    there is his way out if it is fake :)


    B in liberty is low on both
    and W in we is a little crooked, but besides that i dunno, i am no expert.


    HERE is another one of his auctions.
     
  6. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    i think real it but im not sure. sure looks real but i could be wrong
     
  7. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I'll say no. D doesn't look right, and for some reason the reverse doesn't look right either if that makes sense. You think it is cast Jack?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  8. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I dont see why the D being slightly crooked is such a big deal...

    anyways, I do see a resemblance, it has this somewhat porous look to it, like the other you showed...
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    It's not genuine

    Look at the oddball lettering, LIBERTY being the worst, and the bubbly surface, it's probably an electrotype. Yes, the D is way off as well.
     
  10. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    The R in Liberty doesn't look right as well.
     
  11. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    As soon as I seen the auction, I thought of that thread.
    :)
     
  12. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Seller told me it has been in the family since 1965 and they did not have fakes back then, go stick my head in the sand, lol.

    Time to report it.......
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The lettering looks too good to compare to your fakes. I suspect that it is real, but with problems. The specs I am seeing I suspect are corrosion and
    probably means that it has been cleaned.
     
  14. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Study it some more...I'll bet you a dollar, lol
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That "R" looks exactly like mine - CERTIFIED. I still think it is real with corrosion (electrolysis from being in water).
     
  16. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    If I'm wrong, it certainly wont be the first time....I hope either CaveTroll, Mark Feld or GDJMSP pokes around here as well. I do not like the obverse lettering or the D at all. Hmmmmmm, it's a head scratcher.
     
  17. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    It definitely looks fake to me. It just has that fuzzy look that many fakes have.
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The roughness on you 22- is due to depressions where the metal did not fill completely. The bumps on the 14-D are bumps (raised). When I blow it up, all of the letters are straight save the corrosion (which I can tell it is corrosion). The "D" looks like the "D" is supposed to look factoring in the nick on it top. Comparing the letters in "LIBERTY":
    R = fat left leg on both (mine and the pic)
    T = bulbous leg on both
    Y = fatter left arm than right on both

    And Shortgapbob, it looks fuzzy because it is. It is corroded and has electrolysis. Both then to change the shape of things.
     
  19. Silver Striker

    Silver Striker Senior Member

    I am not a collector of cent coins so I am NO expert. But after copying the obverse and rotating it upright and then enlarging it and cutting out the areas pictured below, it sure looks strange to me. The original photo appears not taken at a true perpendicular angle to the coin so there should be some anomalies due to that but... Definitely looks strange.

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  20. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    incorrect mm shape with a CCW lean to it more than any 14-D I have ever seen, BUT, I could be wrong. I do lend credence to Rlm's opinion greatly.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Kinda looks like this one to me
     

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