Went through some coins today and found this. It appears to have the correct die markers. Its worn and it was a struggle getting pictures that show the details today. I got a new scope and am kind of experimenting with how to use it efficiently. In some of the pics below I show the pics from Wexlers next to mine for comparison. I just realized I didnt take full pictures of the front and back. I will add those in.
Imho, since no one has answered yet. So, I will take a shot It appears to be md. I do like the die chip in the “B”. I’m Not an expert on ddo . So I cannot answer if it’s the wexlers ddo-004.
Thanks Rabbit! I was given a couple of old "Dutch Master" cigar boxes (smell great inside by the way lol) full of wheaties. There is about 700 or so between the 2 boxes. Its a slow process for me to get through them. A friend of my son got them from an old guy that needed his trees trimmed before the last hurricane. He asked him "could you guys please take care of my trees but I have very little money". He offered some cash and these boxes of pennies. My sons friend had them for a few years and somehow we started talking about coins one day he gave me these. Kind of cool. He has no time or interest in searching. Anyway, I noticed something interesting about this specific year. Ive found three 19 57s now that all have that filled in "B". It must have been a pretty common chip. Of the other 2 I had, there was no evidence of the die markers. I try really hard to research before I post here and "try" to get good photos and evidence of what my little imagination may be seeing. The markers (at least the ones listed on Wexlers) match up nicely..same direction and soforth. Having said that, I know all too well sometimes that doesnt mean squat. I trust you guys over "internet" die markers when it comes to legit varieties. So thank you for looking at my post. I really appreciate it. I try not to waste peoples time here. I see posts sometimes (Im guilty of my own at the beginning) that only Jesus himself would be able to determine given the crappy pics and description.
Imho, sounds like a nice find. “One persons garbage is another persons treasure “. Pictures are looking good! It definitely helps having a good camera. If you’re unsure, no worries. Most of us love to help out when we can
The last 3 photos how the flat ,sharp edges like slicing across a cake with a knife and are indicators of mechanical shearing of MD. Remember , do the major decision on whether a true variety first and the do die markers, die states, etc. It is the variety that determines the identifier/value and markers are for confirmation. IMO, Jim
Ive never understood "die state" well. I assume it means the condition or "state" of the die from the beginning through deterioration. Im freakin lost when it comes to figuring that out with a coin. I can try to match a similar coin but even thats mind bending. I read about it and sometimes see it will say something like "Class I, Class II , Class V etc.??? Is that the "die state"? Does someone determine that AFTER multiple coins of a variety are found and photographed? I dont mean to be confusing but Im curious as to how they determine what class it is when only one is found? I hope my question even makes sense. If not, sorry lol!
No the class is the movement directions the hubbing was off when done with the multiple squeeze step. Class 1 is the rotated hub DD, Class 5 is the Pivoted hub DD. Class 9 ( where I put the single squeeze claimed) GOD only knows. http://www.error-ref.com/doubled-dies/
This hobby is so complex. Alot more then the novice thinks or someone on the outside. If it werent for a site like this, there would be no way to really enjoy this as a beginner. Books are great and all but there would be no way to really easily and conveniently confirm anything. Thanks, I appreciate all the advice and correction for sure.
Here's something I missed earlier there is also evidence of MD on the date, I will blame it on the cell phone. This type of doubling is not possible on a Doubled Die. The MM is hand punched into the die after the hubbing has been finished. This has to do with the striking of the coin, and is not categorize as a DD.
