Question about Grading Services

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bkushner, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. bkushner

    bkushner New Member

    How people take 4 dollar coins (presidential) that are proof (set cost $15) pay
    $14 a coin to grade ($56) a total of $71 and offer them on ebay for $35?

    When I email the grading companies NGC/PCGS they claim no one pays less then that?

    Brian
     
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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Not sure about the costs, but I heard one guy say he sends in a thousand coins to be graded. Then hopes for the 70's that will cover the ones that are 69's. So they lose on some coins and make up for it on others.
     
  4. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    First, I believe that a large number of coins do get graded for less than $14 each via large/bulk submissions. Second, there is the possibility that the coins you're speaking of graded lower than the submitter expected and that he is going to take a loss. Perhaps others he submitted graded higher and he will make money on them. Some submissions are winners and others are losers - not all coins are sold at profits.
     
  5. bkushner

    bkushner New Member


    Well I can understand that but in this situation we are dealing with proof 69 dCAM and they are BUY IT NOW for $35 a set of 4 grade coins.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, and it happens every day.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If memory serves me right, bulk modern submissions (100 coins or more) were $7 each (or they might be $5). That cuts you price to $43. Presently on the NGC site, their published rates are $12.50 for moderns (5 coin minimum).
     
  8. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Like said, I think they submit coins hoping for a high grade (like a PR-70 probably). And if they don't make that grade, they just sell them for what they can.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  9. bkushner

    bkushner New Member

    I didn't see any bulk pricing on their sites and went by this email from customer service.

    > Hello Brian,
    >
    > Yes the grading is per coin and there is no price breaks on large quantities. If there is anything else we can help you with, please contact customer service.
    >
    > Thank you,
    >
    > XXXXXXX
    > Customer Service
    > Collectors Universe, Inc.
    > XXXX@collectors.com
    > PSA: 1-800-325-1121
    > PCGS: 1-800-447-8848
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: bkushner@XXXXXX
    > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:59 PM
    > To: Info at PSADNA
    > Subject: Fee Question
    >
    > When grading a set like 4 presidential dollars would it be $14 per coin or per set of 4? Is there a discount for large submissions?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Brian
    >
    >
    >
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    They do not list them there. They are for dealers only.
     
  11. bkushner

    bkushner New Member

    The whole mess doesn't sit right with me.
     
  12. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    That's odd. :confused: I've talked to them and was told there's a price break with bulk grading of at least 100 specimens of the exact same coin. PCGS and NGC.
     
  13. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Welcome to the club. :D

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