paddyman98 what's this thing called?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by tammiGee, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You asked the question "What's this thing called?" The question was answered, some with a bit of humor and some directly. We can't help it if you don't like the truth.
     
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  3. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Answers were given. Mine was probably spot on I think.

    It's whether the person posing the question wants to accept and learn from the answers is the real question.

    The "real truth" is sending it in for authentication ==> https://www.pcgs.com/submissionform/usaform.pdf

    I noticed one cannot even PM TammiGee if they wanted to give more info non-public.
     
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  4. tammiGee

    tammiGee Active Member

    Thanks Claw I also Liked your initial comments on the novelty coins. In fact that's one that sent me to the research table today. Your following comments seemed more like a narrative than help with the specific question but Thanks were meant for almost all of the rest of the comments today though and I do take it all in and research the facts. I start like I did early this morning with paddy or anyone that will answer so I have some idea where to start and what its called. Not sure about the PM I get them all of the time.
     
  5. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Your profile is set to "private". I checked it.
     
  6. tammiGee

    tammiGee Active Member

    fixed...unintentional blundered checkmark @Hookman
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Start at the beginning: how coins are minted. This is getting old. Once you learn how coins are minted, you can quickly rule out all damaged coins that could not have happened at the mint, like the obvious coin pointed here.

    Here’s something I found on a quick search. Scroll down after reading to also learn about the die making process and the planchet making process.

    https://www.fleur-de-coin.com/articles/coin-striking
     
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  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    If you peruse nick nack stores, or any place with an arcade, museums, etc etc etc you'll find them. just look around .. even RainForest Cafe Restaurant has them.

    The older ones are really glitchy and produce "flattening errors"
    There's just the 2 rolling presses (no sides, no channel), and you can reverse them via the hand crank. So the coins can fall out after partials just like your example. LOL Newer hand cranks ones have clutches so you can only crank one way.

    below from a sand jeep escapade in northern lower michigan. @Shrews1994 might have seen them too
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    Below is an automated one from one of the Smithsonian museums in Washington DC
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    examples
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    and for you Quarter Collectors ... you gotta love these machines from a skating place's arcade. This one gives out Tickets, not quarters.
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  9. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

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  10. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    I answered your question, yes. But in the future, please do a bit of research before asking a question. Some here may be more forceful in saying it. Very important to research. Additionally, learning about the minting process will help you understand the differences between post minting damage and an actual error. Feel free to ask questions, but please research before asking. Helps all of us. Thank you.
     
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  11. tammiGee

    tammiGee Active Member

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  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Well said. We actually all started out with @tammiGee polite and helpful, but he hasn't bothered to actually learn the minting process and the coins he shows demonstrates this. He also likes to give incorrect advice to others new to the hobby, so we've gotten on his case. I'm certain he has me on ignore, but I still share information when someone asks.
     
  13. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    Nice find, regardless.
    The others gave you references but not any knowledge. They can NEVER discover anything novel by simply cross referencing know example.
    Analyzing your coin: it has a stretched rim, meaning pmd. If real you would expect that the strike on this coin could have been a double strike, of some sort and THEN wear, maybe? But in addition to the stretched rim, you would expect a clear demarcation of the separate strikes. This is true in any case regarding your coin. The normal portion shows no abnormalities, or a clear border of the die striking the previously struck coin or Visa versa, which would bolster a mint error

    Please stop with the personal comments, they are violations and will carry penalties, so coins only.
     
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  14. funnycoins

    funnycoins no strike, no balls,no outs. Just give me an hour

     
  15. funnycoins

    funnycoins no strike, no balls,no outs. Just give me an hour

    Well everyones answers seem to be following a common theme, Don't come on our playground and start asking questions? With the exception of
    @i2i who offers not just answers, but insight along with innuendo of a teaching background. Thanks for a genuinely appropriate comment. Fresh!
     
  16. funnycoins

    funnycoins no strike, no balls,no outs. Just give me an hour

    "Pot calling the kettle black"
    More genuine disregard of members' intellect and and excitement . What a Fun experience this thread has offered the reading public.......
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No! It's just the regard we have for a...…..
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  18. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    What is with the dredging up of old posts lately?
     
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  19. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

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  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    @i2i @funnycoins no. Anyone who thinks this could possibly have happened at the mint does not understand how the minting process works. The reason you two feel that we have not provided enough information is because you disagree with our answers. I have never bashed anyone for asking a question. The issue arises when someone asks the same question over and over, or ignores what we’ve tried to teach them. At that point, it no longer becomes worth our time to explain in detail why this damaged coin is clearly a damaged coin, because the OP won’t learn from it. It is much more practical to learn what an error IS through learning the minting process, than what an error IS NOT. The vast majority of coins are not errors. Knowing the minting process helps us rule out the ones that were not made in the mint. We have explained this to the OP on numerous occasions and he has ignored them every time. I understand that you are both new here, and likely have not seen the vast number of posts from Tammigee has posted with stuff like this. That’s fine, but best to take a moment to ask questions instead of coming in guns blazing with unfounded accusations. Welcome to the both of you. If you want to learn about errors, check out this website: www.error-ref.com. Forgive us if we do not do more than lead you to the water. Drinking is your choice. We do not get paid for teaching and have little interest in dealing with people who do not desire to learn.
     
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  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    I forget but, I do think it was in the 60's.

    the 1960's that is.

    One try and I couldn't be bothered again
     
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