Hand punched mint marks

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  1. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Does anyone have a link to video of the process of hand punched mint marks? I'm interested in seeing it done but I can find video.
     
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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Probably because the last time mint marks were done by hand videos weren't made that often. The technology was primitive by today's standards.
     
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  4. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    last time mint marks were done by hand was 1991 for business and 1985 for proof and video was alive and well by those years, you would think there would be video documentation of the process for historical purposes.
     
  5. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    when I try and search what I am looking for I keep getting a bunch of you tube get rich off of coins rubbish. I was hoping that someone here had a more direct link if there is one. If not thats cool I will keep looking and digging through the typical google crap.
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I looked also but nothing.. This video is very informative
     
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  7. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that paddy
     
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not really, at least not if one knows the history of the mint and it's basic policies. Ya see, for most of its existence the mint has always been very secretive about how and why they do certain things - and not do other things. For example, until recent years the mint would go to extreme lengths to make sure that they never produced any coins that were scarce let alone actually rare. The last thing they wanted was collectors snapping coins up and removing them from circulation. They'd seen it happen, the 1909-S VDB cent was an example. There were others as well. They even did everything they could to discourage the very idea of scarcity or rarity with bullion coins - which is why none of the ASEs or AGE ever had W mint marks on them even though they were almost all made at the West Point mint.

    But then in recent years they changed their policies, they began to go out of their way to produce scarce coins, even intentionally marketing them as such. It was a night and day switch from 2 centuries or previous policy.

    Also, their policy always was that they didn't allow cameras inside the mint. So to think that they themselves would make video's of the mint mark process ? Simply put it is/was something that there was no way it was ever going to happen. Until recent years they never allowed or took pictures of anything let alone videos of it.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Eric, I should have asked you in the previous post, but what exactly is it you wish to know about the process ? I mean, there's not that much to know really.

    Once the master dies were made the mint employee would pick up a metal punch with the appropriate letter on it, he'd place it on the die and hit it with a hammer. Then the master die would be used to create working hubs and they in turn used to create working dies. That's really about all there is to it.

    My point is, what could a video tell us that we don't already know ?
     
  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    There was a long article, I think by CoinWeek on how they handled Mint Marks.
    There was only still photos available. It showed the stamps, how they hammered the Mint Marks during die maintenance, etc.

    So there's a really good article out there .. somewhere.
     
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  11. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    This article shows one of the photos from that article I mention above
    https://doubleddie.com/58243.html
    apparently from "This photo, courtesy of Error Trends Coin Magazine (ETCM) and Arnold Margolis, shows a Mint engraver getting ready to punch a mint mark into a working die. The working die is held in a vise. His right hand is positioning the mint mark punch and the mallet that he will use to tap the mint mark punch into the die is being held in his left hand."

    So just search around for that ETCM article.

    Remember the US MINT operations were all about making coins and improving the quality or speed and efficiency, etc. Not about making professional archival videos of the work that they did. Even the US MINTs videos today do not go in detail and miss a lot of the entire production process which varies some from mint to mint.
     
  12. Nyatii

    Nyatii I like running w/scissors. Makes me feel dangerous

    Some people are visual - like me, and just like to see things.
    We know about it. We know how it's done. Not the same as seeing it.

    Probably why the porno industry is a billion dollar business.
     
  13. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Actually the mint mark was punched into the working die as opposed to the master die.
     
  14. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Paddy provided a video to give me a idea of how it was done. As Nyatti said some people are visual and just reading about it doesn't always provide the answers needed. I know they want to keep certain procedures confidential but out dated tech and procedures shouldn't matter if the public sees how it was done but hey it's a part of the government and they do what they want.
     
  15. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    You get a best answer for that :hilarious:
     
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fair enough, appreciate the correction ;)
     
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