Photos for ID

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    @arnoldoe , those are very nice. What is the lighting used, and distance from phone to coin?
     
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  3. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    Just the lamp above the table, + for distance i just use the digital zoom about 3/4 of the way and find whatever looks best. lamp.jpg
     
  4. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Interesting. But what is the distance from your phone to the coin? How many inches (or cm)? I'm curious about how well you are able to focus the camera.
     
  5. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Here is a set of pics of the same coin shot with my iPhone 8, with a light and dark background, first of each is the unaltered image after cropping and resizing for upload, the second pic adjusts the brightness and/or contrast to take the coin closer to its look in hand. The lighting was with a pair of desk lamps with "Daylight" (5600K) color temperature:
    First set, phone was mounted 10cm (lens to subject):

    The coin I chose is very dark billon. Bright silver shoots well, but I wanted to see what happens if you are shooting a bronze or low quality billon.
    DARK background

    Unaltered normal exposure:
    phonetest1-sm.jpg

    Reducing the brightness with a dark background gave the image that is easiest to examine.
    phonetest1b-sm.jpg

    Second set phone was handheld ~ 10cm (lens to subject)
    WHITE background:

    Detail is lost before adjustment.
    phonetest2-sm.jpg

    Brightening the image and reducing contrast made it readable.
    phonetest2b-sm.jpg

    Of the four pics, the last one gives the closest render of what it looks like in hand.

    The phone gives acceptable images, but using a camera gives more flexibility for image control. Post editing took about the same time either way, but my camera setup is permanently "up" and always ready to shoot.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2019
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  6. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    Around 6 inches maybe
     
  7. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    "Bright white backgrounds can fool auto exposure routines to make dark coins too dark."

    This is remedied by setting the exposure meter to a smaller sampling area. Obviously this is not a cell phone setting that can be adjusted but any dedicated camera has this option.

    A white background aids in publishing and is the reason every single auctioneer uses this color excepting rare occasions where a dramatic effect is sought.
     
  8. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I have here a couple images I kind of cheated on. I just posted a couple days ago a denarius of Caracalla, a pretty small coin. Some members both here and on another site I posted them, felt the images were not good enough for purposes of authenticating. Well, I do know how to use an SLR and macro lenses so I took pictures of the coin, went to the drug store, turned them into paper prints, then came home and took pictures of the prints with the cell phone. I didn't pop the sd card into my desk top as it is inhabited by several poltergeist who would use this , or any other novelty, to wreak havoc on my computer. Anyway, this is what I got and it does provide some interesting detail, warts and all. Look at the tin IMG_0972[3629]slr print rev.jpg IMG_0969[3621]SLR obv.jpg IMG_0973[3627]SLR print obv (3).jpg y Victory in the hand of Roma on the reverse.
     
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  9. NYandW

    NYandW Makes Cents!

    Nice thread, informative.. Thank you.
     
  10. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    When I first started collecting I was using a phone camera. I didn't share many of those pictures here because they were just terrible and I felt embarrassed seeing all your nice photos compared to mine. Then I got a decent digital camera and I took thousands of pictures with it but I just kept thinking they could be better with a better camera.
    About a year ago my sister lent me her dslr and the photos are much nicer but I still feel they could be better.
    I've concluded that no matter what camera I use I just suck at taking pictures.
     
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