Military Payment Currency Guide

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Thomas R Reynolds, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    To further clarify, many people use different words to describe certain notes
    The Series 611 $10 has always been called the "Marilyn Monroe" because
    Of the likeness and glamour of it, also the Series 681 $20 has been known
    As the "Audie Murphy" people associate names to different things, just
    Makes it easier..LOL
     
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  3. Thomas R Reynolds

    Thomas R Reynolds Active Member

    OK who picked the people and the design of MPC's. Are they Treasury Dept., etc?
     
  4. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    The BEP produced the designs with guidance from the Army. Len Buckley who designed Series 681 for the BEP gave a presentation a few years ago at the MPCFest. He described a fairly involved process from concept to finish.
     
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  5. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Those are, to me, far more beautiful than any ordinary money.

    I'm assuming that because of their condition and rarity, these notes are in the three to four figure range.
     
  6. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Not sure if you mean hundreds or thousands ? Value is basically based
    On three things, first and foremost is condition followed closely by rarity
    and third popularity, most of my MPC,S are (TPG) third party graded
    By either PCGS or PMG, its is extremely difficult for people to agree on
    Value of raw notes (ungraded) especially if your using only a picture
    Almost impossible ! But graded notes can be bought and sold sight
    Unseen and that,s a huge advantage.

    To give you an idea on value, i will go over some of the notes in my collection
    Since you asked, that way it will give you a good idea on approx value.
    Remember many of my notes are one of a kinds and of the highest grade
    So they are irreplaceable !

    Starting with my number one is this Series 661 $20 PCGS68PPQ
    This note as a few things going for right off the bat, first its a
    Rare note in its own right with only 8M printed a low number
    Secondly it,s the first series to have an actual $20 in it all previous
    Ones were $10,s and thirdly its the one and only 68PPQ in existence
    To top it off and this note is worth right around $8,500 i did turn
    Down an offer of $6,500 not to long ago.


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    I dont want to scare you way with the above figure, Most MPC, Can be had
    For allot less, raw gem notes would generally be in the $550-$750 Range
    Depending on centering at first glance.

    Will go over some more tomorrow, getting late here on the west coast
     
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  7. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    WOW.....I'm speechless....at both the quality and the price.
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    When you start getting into finest known territory the prices will reflect!

    I really ought to pay more attention to my MPC collection...threads like this tug at my heartstrings.
     
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  9. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Five or six years ago a Series 661 $20 in 66EPQ would cost you $2K-$3K. Now you can buy an example in 66EPQ for just over $1K.
     
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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Prices are indicative to availability, less available more expense , most of
    What i collect are 1 - 10 populations notes, so you can throw the average
    Cost out the window, not that there,s good deals out there because sometimes
    People need money and are willing to sell at a loss !
    i will post more latter.
     
  11. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    @mpcusa , Which of your notes have less than 10 known ?
     
  12. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Condition rarity.

    Here is one with less than 10 known although 56 were made.

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  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I think you misunderstood, its graded populations not the notes themselves
    The Series 661 $20 ( the one above has a population of only 1 in 68PPQ
    With none higher) unless you have discovered another that i dont know
    About....LOL
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    And here,s another, this is second on my list, with a value of $5,500 originally
    From the Tom Flynn collection, i have had this one for several years Series 681
    $10 in 69PPQ a pure master piece, for sure one of my favorites and it honors
    The military which is huge plus for me.

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  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    They dont all have to be superstars or super expensive for that matter
    A/U grades offer great quality at an excellent price ! here,s one of my
    examples, Series 591 $10 in 53EPQ picked this one up some time ago
    for $675.00 which is a steal ! Uncirculated grades can be 4 or 5 times
    This price.


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    That PPQ or EPQ is very important in an A/U grade
     
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  16. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    @mpcusa Where are you getting your pricing ($5,500) ?

    Isn’t this the same note ?


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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Condition is always the first thing you consider when buying anything i
    Can remember seeing on ebay i guy trying to sell Series 681 $20
    Replacement notes (Raw) i believe he as asking $700 for each and
    He had a couple, then he got them graded went VF-20 which dropped
    The value substantially.

    Also you cant trust printed populations as many were destroyed
    Like in this pic.


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  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Well again if you can find another Series 681 $10 in 69PPQ for $977, i will
    Buy all you have :) unfortunately you cant, being this the only one, and the
    $5,500 would be more then a fair price for this note, Its obvious your
    Not in your element here, so dont try and be an expert on something
    Your not, Sad but true, i know way more about these then you do :)
     
  19. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    This has nothing to do with being an expert. The MPC market is a very narrow niche within the hobby and you’re always saying that it’s only worth what someone is willing to pay. Inflating the price doesn’t make it worth more. You definitely know more about these than me, but that doesn’t mean I’m unable to research pricing.
     
  20. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    It sure does, knowing the value of each individual note and how rare that note
    Is in the MPC world, is very important, i think whats lost in translation here
    is not necessarily the note but the grade of the note, the Series 681 $10 note
    Itself has a delivered population of only 3,200,000 and that,s a very low number
    To start with, add in the obvious burning parties as the picture above depicts
    and your numbers drop drastically, 4.5 Million dollars in MPC is a tremendous
    amount and there were more of the same and that would affect actual on hand
    Populations.

    As far as your analogy on value and price, its true and yes i say it all the time
    "something is worth only what someone else is going to give you for it"
    You of course would not pay that amount, but many MPC collectors would
    Jump at the chance to own a one of a kind like this, and if i were to
    Consider selling it, that would be a realistic point, your auction price is
    Several years old, so i guess in your mind as per your other post the
    Price of this one has dropped as well ?......LOL

    If your talking run of the mill MPC,S there still a great value ! and many
    Can be had for a good price, but when you again get in to an area of extreme
    Rarity, the prices will always be high, that simple supply and demand 101

    I have over 20 years experience in graded MPC, so a little credit would be
    Appreciated on knowing what i am talking about , my collection is an obvious
    Statement to that :)
     
  21. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

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