Finally got the Augustus denarius I wanted.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have been looking for one of these for 2 years. It seems fitting that I landed this one on my 4 year anniversary on Cointalk.


    Many of you are aware that I have this rare coin of Tiberius with the quadriga reverse. 2 years ago I realized that it was based on a coin of Augustus. Here is the Tiberius.

    Tiberius, 14-37 Denarius Lugdunum circa 15-16, AR (18.55 mm., 3.85 g).
    Obv: TI CAESAR DIVI - AVG F AVGVSTVS Laureate head r.
    Rev: TR POT XVII IMP VII Tiberius holding branch and eagle-tipped scepter in triumphal quadriga r.
    RIC 4 (R2) C 48. SRCV I (2000) 1762
    Ex: Naville Numismatics Auction #25 Lot #407 September 25, 2016



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    Since I found out about the Augustus I have wanted one because it features Tiberius as Caesar in the quadriga on the reverse. The interesting thing about the coin I bought is that it is misattributed. The description on Naville claims it is RIC 222 (R). However, if you look closely you can see that 2 of the horses are looking in the opposite direction. The coin is in fact RIC 224 (R2).

    I am really pleased that I will get to add this coin to my collection. Please post your coins of Augustus, or coins that you had to wait to purchase.

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    Octavian as Augustus, 27 BC – 14 AD Denarius
    Lugdunum circa 13-14,
    18mm., 3.56g.
    Obv:Laureate head r.
    Rev. Tiberius in triumphal quadriga r., holding laurel branch and eagle-tipped sceptre.
    RIC 224
    Ex: Naville Numismatics Live auction 50 Lot 439 June 23, 2019
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coin, I like those reverse types too. Congrats.
     
  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Congrats, great coin!! And nice job spotting the rare variety. :cigar:

    Quinarius and denarius:

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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Very nice looking coin! Congrats on your coin and your 4 years here at CT!
     
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  6. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Augustus, with Tiberius as Caesar. 27 BC-14 AD . AR Denarius. 4.0 gm. Lugdunum (Lyon) mint. Struck 13-14 AD. Obv: CAESAR AVGVSTVS • DIVI F PATER PATRIAE, laureate head of Augustus right. Rev: TI • CAESAR in exergue, AVG F TR POT XV above, Tiberius, standing right, driving triumphal quadriga, holding eagle tipped scepter in left hand and laurel branch and reins in right. RIC I 224; RSC 301; BMCRE 509-10; BN 1690.
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  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Wow @PeteB

    That is a stunning example! Thanks for posting it here.
     
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  9. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Andrew
     
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  10. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    nice one with quadriga...Ofew...:)..and these others on here...super nice too!..i have just the basic Octavian as Augustus for the 12.. augustus denari 001.JPG augustus denari 002.JPG
     
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  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A wonderful addition Andrew! The two coins make a nice pair.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree that is a great Augustus type and one I would love to have. My personal favorites of Augustus all have severe 'issues'. Several came to me when I was buying fourree rarities. This is the two headed Augustus/Tiberius or Tiberius/Augustus as you prefer.
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  13. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Really nice coins, everybody. Augustus issued so many interesting types in that late-Republic-Imperator-early Empire era.

    Augustus is pretty much out of my price range, but back before eBay ruined me with quantity-over-quality "opportunities," I used to buy a handful of somewhat better coins off fixed (mail) price lists. Here is my only Octavian, a purchase from 1994 - a rather scarce "military mint" issue.

    Looking at the iffy photos - I wonder if it is an overstrike? I suppose "military" mint might explain it's crudity.

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    Roman Imperatorial Denarius
    Octavian / Q Salvius, moneyer
    (40 B.C.)
    Military Mint in Italy

    C CAESA[R III] VR R P C, bare head of Octavian right, / Q SALVVS IMP COS D[ESIG], around thunderbolt.
    Crawford 523/1a;Sydenham 1326b.
    (3.58 grams / 18 mm)
     
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  14. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Orfew , great couple of quadriga coins.

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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great job @Orfew ! Hard to get, great looking coin, neat toning, and I love the reverse. Nailed it, Andrew!


    Hey! I got wunna those, but I took mine out of the target from the shooting range! (Mine USED to be slabbed)

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    Augustus AR Denarius - Obv-Rev Sear 1578 NGC4276216-007

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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    uh..that's a very nice..but i PAID to have it put in there ^^
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I bought mine from a good friend in NC (dealer). He was already was sending several of his modern coins in for slabbing, and said he would send mine for no added cost. Got it back. Within a week I cracked it.
     
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ... kool bro...that was part of the fun for you :)
     
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  20. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that is a very beautiful denarious old friend btw...:)
     
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, thank you. Yours is much better centered. Has that real look, good circulation wear... I got a great deal on mine, but it looks like it was tossed into a savings pot and never got around. Off-centered, but I liked it for the flow lines on the reverse... late production on an older reverse die. Like many of us, I generally like Reverses.
     
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