Question Regarding 2X2 Snaplock Holders???

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That is correct.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

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    Yes Michael, I am very well aware of that technicality. But the plasticizer you're talking about, in discussions and ordinary conversation it's pretty much always simply referred to as PVC, and or PVC residue so as to avoid confusion.

    edit - I should have added that is good to add the info you did for those who were not aware of it.

    Afraid I disagree with ya on this point. It does not leach out as a liquid but as a gas. Then the gas condenses on the coin and turns into a viscous liquid as greater and greater amounts of it accumulate.

    In the beginning that liquid is crystal clear, almost invisible to the naked eye. It is only after it has been there a while that it takes on its greenish shade of color. And over time the greed shade fades, the substance dries out and can even become flaky in nature, and it often becomes a tan color, then brown, and in some cases it can even become quite dark, almost black.

    The point here is that PVC residue is not static in color nor form, it is ever changing in color and form as the chemical reactions occur over time. The reason it is important that folks know this is so it can be more readily recognized in any and all of its forms and colors - all of which are harmful to the coins.
     
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    But you still haven't dome yourself any favors. Yes, the kiontains protect the coins from the cardboard dust particles put off by the cardboard 2x2s. But they do not protect the coins from the gas containing sulfur that is put off by the cardboard. Kointains are not airtight, and pretty much all plastics are air permeable to begin with, which means that the harmful gasses put off by the cardboard go right through the face of the plastic and get to the coins anyway.

    The one and only solution that works is to remove any and all non inert materials from the storage area of your coins.
     
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  5. GDJMSP

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    Yes it is true. By law, no product that is manufactured for food packaging and or food storage is allowed to contain any of the harmful plasticizer found in PVC products.
     
  6. Drummer1

    Drummer1 Member

    After reading your knowledgeable information you provided, I plan to continue using the 2x2 snap lock holders and store in an inert storage container.
     
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  7. dopey

    dopey New Member

    PUT EACH COIN IN IT'S CORRECT AIRTITE AND PUT THE AIRTITES INTO ANASE FOLDER
     
  8. dopey

    dopey New Member

    PUT THE COINS IN THEIR CORRECT AIRTITES AND THEN PUT THE AIRTITES INTO A N ASE AMBUM
     
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  9. Lev99

    Lev99 Member

    I think it should be ok. I’ve not run into anything that discusses off gassing of sulfur compounds from modern cardboard. And a few of the 2x2 makers say their product is archival safe. I’ve noticed spotting on some coins due to cardboard in physical contact, so it makes me paranoid enough to keep a layer of Mylar between the coin and the cardboard.

    Point well taken though. You just have to keep the environment as clean as you can both on air quality and what the coins are physically touching.
     
  10. Drummer1

    Drummer1 Member

    Well, I should have that covered pretty well since my coins are stored in my home which stays comfortable temperature wise and stored in the 2x2 snaplocks!
     
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  11. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    In my earlier comment I forgot to suggest that you put your 2x2 snap locks in crown size paper flips and store in crown pages. Should fit even four across.
     
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  12. GDJMSP

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    All paper products, except those specifically manufactured to be of archival quality, are made with sulfur. And yes that includes all modern products. And, all paper products put off gasses containing sulfur from the moment they are produced. This is not an opinion, merely a simple scientific fact. Everything puts off gasses as it decays - and everything decays. Even the metal of the coin itself puts off gasses as it decays.

    Lastly, physical contact is not the problem, or very rarely so and only with certain substances. The problem is the air and the gasses and contaminants it contains. Air is the primary enemy of coins.
     
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