What coins were considered collectable 200 years ago?

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  1. Williammm

    Williammm Member

    What coins were considered collectable 200 years ago?
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    In US coins? Not much. Whatever was available back then..
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  4. Randy Abercrombie

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    Did you put that montage together Paddy?
     
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  5. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    200 years ago almost all US coins were circulating. Ancient and Medieval coinage was most prevalent at the time. Especially roman and greek coinage.
     
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  6. AdamsCollection

    AdamsCollection Well-Known Member

    To add to this, this is why you can sometimes find roman coins in places like Kansas, Illinois, Arkansas etc. Even sometimes in your backyard of new York. They were collected then too and sometimes lost. NO ancient romans did not travel to the us years ago, these were likely planted, or lost by collectors/travelers.
     
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  7. onecenter

    onecenter Member

    Every coin that has survived from 200 years ago.
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    200 years ago most folks was trying to scrape out an subsistence. Every coin they had was devoted to life sustainability. Back then, coin collecting was the hobby of Kings......
     
  9. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    I know that Conder tokens were very popular collectibles in England around that time. The US was a young country with perhaps fewer people with means and opportunity to collect coins. If I’m not mistaken, a lot of the Washington pieces were made in the early 1800’s specifically as souvenirs or collectibles.
     
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Back then ancient Greek coins were highly collectable...

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    And Roman coins even more so....

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    However, Roman provincial coinage was considered very undesirable 200 years ago. Probably the only people collecting Roman provincials were working class people who couldn't afford the official imperial coinage that was seen as more desirable by wealthy collectors. It wasn't until the last few decades that these coins have become highly collectable...

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    @green18 , I suspect even working class people collected coins back then. Perhaps they didn't have much in the way of Roman or Greek coins, but suveneir coins of all types in base metals such as copper and bronze seem to have been popular enough in the 1700's and 1800's to have been minted in pretty large numbers.
     
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  11. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    PS: Although I no longer collect medieval coins, they were also a popular collecting theme 200 years ago. Here are a few former medievals I used to own.

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    Ok, if my last two posts did something to you, perhaps it's time you consider adding medieval or ancient coins to your collection. Many are readily affordable, so drop by the ancients section sometime and let us help you expand your collecting focus to ancients and medievals too. You don't have to abandon US coins at all, which are still fun to collect (especially 19th century coinage)...but it doesn't hurt to expand your horizons.
     
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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You must be very old! So old you are ancient!
     
  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Looks like a Misaligned Die Strike on the Obverse :wacky:
     
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  15. Ask @GDJMSP he’ll know for sure.
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    From what I have read, in the US Washington pieces were the most wanted items. They did not limit themselves to only official mint coins as much as collectors do nowadays, with tokens, medals, buttons etc all being desired.

    Worldwide, ancients had been collected for centuries at this point, so much so that very good artists were commissioned to reproduce rare pieces.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What coins were considered collectible 200 years ago? An interesting question, but one to which I believe the answer is simple and quite obvious. And the answer remains the same regardless of the date limitation placed in the question - pretty much all of them, including of course the coins of the day.

    Over the years I've posted the following comment many times - coins have been collected for as long as there have been coins. And students of history are all too well aware of this. For example, back in the early days of CT when the Contest section was first created, I used to hold contests of my own on a regular basis. To a large degree this was just so there would be some contests, and to provide incentive/example to others so they would hold contests of their own. Anyway, I used to work at coming up with somewhat difficult but answerable questions which one could find the answers to provided they were willing to put in a little effort and time, and thus learn something in the process.

    One of the questions I posed back then was this - what and when was the first book on numismatics printed - actually printed. This is the answer -

    Quite soon after Gutenberg had invented printing (first printed edition of the Bible 1453), a flood of books containing illustrations and interpretations of coins appeared. In 1511, Margarethe Peutinger, wife of the Humanist Conrad Peutinger, sent a treatise on the images and titles of the Roman Emperors on the coins of their times to her brother Christopher Welser, asking him to arrange the publication of this work.

    A lot of people found the date to be most surprising. Me, I found it most interesting that numismatics was considered so important, even back then, that the subject was one of the primary choices for printed books. I mean think about it, printing, at that time, was something new as well still quite rare. And one would think that it would be reserved for subjects of greater importance, the first book ever printed was the Bible after all. And yet the people of the day found numismatics to follow closely on its heels in degree of importance.

    Another aspect that I found most interesting was that the first printed book on numismatics was written by a woman - not a man. Even today, when asked, if there is a gender bias in the hobby most will answer yes that the vast majority of collectors are males and females play but a small part. This is not true of course, not today and I believe it never was. I believe the actual truth is most folks ares simply unaware of it. For instance, I would estimate that roughly half of the membership of this forum is female - but I don't think most folks realize that. Nonetheless it is true.

    While researching that question and its answer I also found it surprising that for centuries prior to the invention of the printing press, books on numismatics were indeed quite numerous, but written by hand as all books were. Again, illustrating the degree of importance placed upon the subject of numismatics.

    Now few people, even the most serious and dedicated of collectors, would know things like this. But yet it is true and in my eyes it goes a long, long ways towards illustrating and explaining the longevity and persistence of the hobby we all love.
     
  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Ancient coins. Here's a coin from antiquity and a listing from Mionnet's catalog in 1822:

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  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I forgot to include something in my comments above that also helps illustrate what I said, it was another of my trivia questions. When and where was the first coin auction held ? Answer - 1598 in Leiden, Netherlands.

    So, even 400 years ago coin collecting was so popular that coin auctions existed. I find things like that downright astounding !
     
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  20. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    One would imagine it might have been far earlier actually. By the early 1500s rare ancient coins were being reproduced for rich collectors. Best and easiest way to determine rarity and value would be from an auction. The earliest auctions were held, people learned relative values, and then made new copies of the most expensive and in demand.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Could easy be, but the one I mentioned is the oldest anyone has found record of - so far.
     
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