Having trouble differentiating between 2005 D Kennedy Half Dollar Satin Finish vs Regular strike?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Charlie Cliques, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Charlie Cliques

    Charlie Cliques Active Member

    Not sure which this is, or even which is better.. looking for ways to identify the difference?

    (I realize there are multiple marks on it which would subtract from the value either way, not the point of this thread )

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  3. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Just unc. The finish on the specimens is more of a satin frost, and the strikes are full. Contact marks are also nearly non-existent.
     
  4. Jim K

    Jim K Member

    So it may sound dumb, but I had the same trouble. I simply bought the uncirculated mint sets to complete my satin finish collections. The above post is also correct. I called it more of a matte finish, but at my age, the eyes are not nearly as good as they used to be, so to be sure, I made sure I purchased coins in mint cellos or in full unc mint sets. I had only one which I needed that was certified, a position B dollar. If anyone knows of any die markers for the satin finishes, that would be a great help to those working on their collections. I know of none for the 2005-2010 coins.
     
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think it should be noted that not even the TPGs could determine with any certainty if a coin was satin finish or not satin finish, especially in the early years of the program.

    Back in 2005 there were a great many reports of satin finish coins being purchased directly from the mint, sent to the TPG in their original packaging, and yet slabbed as being regular circulation coins.

    How and why could this happen ? It's quite simple really, because the mint used the satin finish dies for too long and the satin finish wore off. Resulting in coins that were supposed to be satin finish - but were not. And then those coins were packaged up and sold as satin finish coins, even though they had little to no satin finish on them.

    It's the same exact thing that used to happen with the annual Proof sets before 1973. A small handful of the coins would be cameo and all the rest were not cameo. And it was all because the dies were used too long.

    My point in all this is simple - the coins your questioning may or may not be satin finish. There's really no way to tell. But if you cannot tell, then you pretty much have to assume they are not.
     
  6. Charlie Cliques

    Charlie Cliques Active Member

    Contact marks are also nearly non-existent on satin finish? what if satin finish coin went into circulation? Or am i misunderstanding your reply...?
     
  7. Charlie Cliques

    Charlie Cliques Active Member

    Thank you! this is helpful. What are the ways you could tell, i.e. lets say a coin struck before the die was worn?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Coins that actually have the satin finish look distinctly different than business strikes do. But describing that "look" is pretty hard to do with words, at least in a way that would actually help somebody. It's even hard to do with pictures because you can almost never trust that a picture of a coin will look like the coin does when viewed in hand.

    So, what to do ? Go to a coin shop, ask to see some coins that do have the satin finish. Then ask to see some regular business strikes from the same date. Look at them side by side - then you should know.

    And like I said before, if you're looking at a coin and wondering if it is satin or not - well, the simple fact that you have to wonder at all means you should just assume they are not and let it go at that.
     
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  9. Charlie Cliques

    Charlie Cliques Active Member

    Thanks for the advice!
     
  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Then it would be circulated. It would still be a specimen unless it was worn enough to lose identifiers, just like proofs.
     
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