1949-S Jefferson Nickel--What is the grade?

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What is the grade of this Raw 1949-S Jefferson Nickel

  1. MS65

  2. MS65+

  3. MS66

  4. MS66+

  5. MS67

  6. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I've decided to do something different than the normal guess the grade, so here it is:

    If this is an NGC 1949-S MS66

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    And this is a PCGS 1949-S MS66

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    Then what is the grade of this Raw 1949-S Jefferson Nickel?

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    Please vote in the attached Poll, thank you.
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    A lot of scratches and at least one ding or bag mark.
     
  4. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Nice coin for sure! I vote MS67.
     
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  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ok, so what is your grade?
     
  6. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    MS-66+
     
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  7. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I simply noted what I saw. I would say it could go MS-65. But, I am not an expert by any means.
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    MS67

    It beats the other two hands down.

    Chris
     
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  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I agree I thought that at first, (maybe 67+ or 68), but looking at it longer I am not a fan of Jefferson staring down that big scratch in front of him. Therefor I would say 66 even though at first glance it is a FAR superior coin.
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    On the first coin, besides the cheek chatter (minor) there are 3 gouges with missing metal all on the collar. The reverse is a blurry mess. The steps and Monticello (you can blame a weak strike) look terrible.
    If that coin is a 66 and I believe it is over graded, the second coin is a bit closer,
    than your coin looks to be 67.
    I would be at 63 and 65 on the 1st 2 coins.
     
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  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    When I viewed the photo, my reaction was “what the heck is that in the left obverse field?” I knew the mark was there but it almost appeared like a wipe/cleaning. Upon further inspection under a loupe, it appears only at certain angles and is very slight. I doubt that a grader would view it as a grade limiting disturbance. My photo makes it look much worse than it really is.
     
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  12. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    Way nicer than the other two!
     
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  13. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Both coin #1 and #2 appear to be overgraded - bumped to MS66 for color and eye-appeal...? The new coin looks like a 65 with a shot at 66. Yes, the fields are clean, but it’s short on luster and too “white” for my taste. I voted MS66 as it seems PCGS is lenient with those.
     
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  14. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    Good discussion. Everyone made all my points for me.
     
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  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    +1 I do believe if graded by NGC the grade would been a lot tighter if they still grade Jeffersons as I've experienced in the past.. ALL 3 are nice coins and perhasp the photos are more revelling that actual in hand.
    As some of the hits on coin #3 to my eye look worst that the op stated.
    I gave it a 65 based on the images..again in hand probably a 66
     
  16. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    If the luster is there it looks 67 to me. I like coin #1 the most.
     
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  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Coin #1 has been replaced by a cleaner and more attractive NGC MS66

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  18. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    No contest... just goes to show all the grades within the grade. Great coin
     
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  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The sad part is that even if the coin in question comes back MS67, it still might not earn its way into my registry set.
     
  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Paul what grade do you have in that date and mm space in your set at present?
     
  21. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    BOTH services have tightened considerably. NGC was generally looser by 1 point; however, it is now on par with PCGS IMHO and both have tightened. I would call it an old 67, a new 66. The original old 66s probably would be 65s today.
     
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