Fakes

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by A1000talents, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. A1000talents

    A1000talents New Member

    I feel bad for a pastor that bought these. I went to his birthday party yesterday and he always told me he had authentic ancient coins. He showed me this, and his Bradford Exchange coins. I was to say the least sad. He's spent a lot on fake copies or layered coins.
    He's 75 and thinks these ancients are authentic because the Bradford Exchange says there made with authentic ancient silver. I'm not big into coins, mainly militaria but the Bradford Exchange is a scam.
     

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Shame on that company! The ad needs to clearly state they are reproductions.
     
  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Agree not good, gee wiz you could say all siver is ancient as it goes back to when the earth formed. I suppose as long as he is happy with his replica's.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I live in an apartment complex for senior citizens. Yesterday, *David* showed me a proof specimen of a British Crown that just didn't look right. When I asked him where he got it, he said that it came from the Bradford Exchange, and he showed me the "paperwork" that came with it. Of course, the clincher that he missed was that it was plated (!) in 99.9% silver, but it didn't say what the silver was covering. If *David* chose to keep it, he only had to make two payments of about $26 each. When I asked him if he had paid for it, he said he had not. Then I asked him if he had placed an order for it, to which, he said he had not. Finally *David* asked me what he should do with it, and I told him that since he didn't order it, he had no obligation to pay for it or even mail it back to the Bradford Exchange.

    Don't you just love it when you get the opportunity to stick it to companies like this!!!

    Chris
     
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  6. A1000talents

    A1000talents New Member

    Unfortunately he thinks they're real. I have a Corinthian coin my brother gave me for Christmas. So I showed it to him in January. He told me he had one too, turns out his is this fake stuff.
    Didn't have the heart to tell him there fakes
     
  7. A1000talents

    A1000talents New Member

    Yep he has those too. Plated. He gifted me a coin, it's a copy of an 1804 US coin, he paid $70 for that!
     
  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Just when you think things couldn't get any lower, we are once again reminded of the unscrupulous people out there who are out to make a fortune at our expense...and at the expense of our hobby.
     
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

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    Ditto what everyone else said !
     
  10. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    'Made with silver culled from antiquity...'

    Is that just marketing, or are they actually melting down low grade ancients to make these?
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm... "antiquity" could mean Morgan dollars... and I'd be okay with that :D.

    Who knows... maybe this company is trying a novel way to unload the tons of junk silver they bought back when.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Why stop there? I will redate all my coins to when matter was formed.
     
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  13. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Guys, it gets much worse....

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    That's a $35 coin at best.
     
  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Probably wouldn't be accurate. Hydrogen was the first element formed, probably a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang. Maybe a million. All the lighter elements formed in the first stars, but silver wasn't formed until those first stars used up all their nuclear fuel and went supernova, ejecting clouds of heavier elements, which then needed to accrete and condense into new stars that eventually used up their fuel, too, and went supernova, thus creating clouds containing some heavier elements that condense into stars and repeating the process. So you're looking at, probably, a couple of billion years or so before the cycle repeated enough times to form silver. Could be a little less because a lot of those earliest stars were pretty short-lived because of their size. I think if you dated the silver to around 11-11.5 billion B.C. you'd be safe. That's still pretty old for a Greek coin though, so I'd certainly buy it.
     
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