NGC Conserving and Slabbing Service

To avoid possible confusion, that coin, which was net graded and noted for cleaning, was encapsulated by NCS, not NGC. To my knowledge, NGC won't grade/encapsulate and identify coins in that manner.

 

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Kinda like the same thing though, just one step down from the top. If the NCS could have conserved it, then it possibly would have ended up in an NGC holder. But the point is mute now, since the coin is simply marked VF-30 and in the BCBHDC.

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Ben

 

Do Ben, you did just what you have been bashing NGC for doing.
You say that they shouldn't take coins from NCS since they know that they have been worked on and put them in a holder but they should always make sure they are clearly marked that they have problems. So you take a coin and crack it out and don't even note it on the holder...just put VF....what you are doing is totally what you said shouldn't be done in post #6.

Speedy

 

Presumably you meant "moot", not "mute".

 

Hmmm, Speedy think I understand what your getting at. FWIW Hoss, this coin I purchased off of Ebay in the condition shown (picture) and it's obvious I still have proof of the purchase. I applaude NCS for marking the slab as such, but after I cracked it out it (the coin) simply went into a folder where it would fit for display. I still have the documentation to show what NCS THOUGHT of the coin along with the 40 odd others I've cracked out in the recent years.

I'm simply a collector with no intent of selling or marketing my coins much unlike NCS/NGC.

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Take Care Guys
Ben

 

With a very important difference... when holdered in an NCS slab, it is very clear it is a "problem" coin with the problem clearly noted.

 

Also, NGC wisely put more "perception distance" between NGC and NCS by

• using a 2nd brand name
• using a distinctly different holder

ANACS did neither.

 

One must remember too that my coin was NOT Conserved, it was simply identified as cleaned. If it had been dipped the obverse would have looked drastically different.

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Ben

 

I would doubt that Bone---I would bet that NCS did something to it.

One thing I never have heard about---if NCS can't do anything to help your coin...does it get BB?

Speedy

 

Conserved
protect from harm or decay: to keep something, especially an important environmental or cultural resource, from harm, loss, change, or decay
the importance of conserving our national heritage



Conservation
protection of valued resources: the preservation, management, and care of natural and cultural resources
protection from change: the keeping or protecting of something from change, loss, or damage

 

In general, no - depending on your submission choices.

When one submits a coin to NCS, one has several options :

1) Do you want conservation services or not ? If yes, they will evaluate it for 1% of fair market value. If they decide conservation services are warranted, they will do so for 4% of FMV (up to $150,000 per coin; 2% FMV above $150K)

2) Whether conserved or not - submitter has 4 encapsulation options :

a) NGC grading / NCS Authentication + details grade
b) NGC grading / NCS Authentication only (marked "genuine" on holder)
c) NGC grading only (subject to normal body bag rules)
d) return without grading (which makes sense only if you wanted conservation services only)

Options a) and b) guarantee any genuine coin will be slabbed - no BB. NCS will check it out; if it passes muster, they automatically route it over to NGC for the more prestigious slab. Else NCS slabs it.

That is a good way to go if you have a questionable coin.

 

In the opinion of many people, myself included, much of the so-called "conservation" on the part of NCS DOES change and/or damage many of the coins.

 

I agree.
Some of what they do is just fine but they should say "there is nothing we can do" much more often.

 

Thank you for clearing the process up.

Take Care
Ben

 

Does anyone have photos of NCS coins that looks worse after conservation? I'd be interested in seeing what one of these looks like (I certainly don't doubt that there are ugly NCS out there).

 

Especially on copper coins.