The Argument for Cash

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16And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name.18Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…
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Very nice. I wanted to cheer. Thanks.

See below from people who experienced power outages as retailers. Business will not stop. Clerks might say that they cannot work. Their bosses will say otherwise. Here in the States, many convenience stores are owner-operated. Absent distance travel by car to the supermarket, the corner store becomes your focus.

Schuler says that only one person in three has a bank account. Here in Texas, it might be close to 25% (https://checkingexpert.com/texas/). Nationally, it might be between 7 and 9% only, but as high as 19% in minority communities. Many with with a bank account of record still use non-traditional merchants such as pawnshops, payday and title loans, check cashing services, etc., US News herel (https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...o-not-have-a-bank-account-falls-to-record-low )

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War is a different issue entirely.

I have MREs. In an emergency, the point is to keep moving forward, live the day, even if only on calories. If you take vitamins every day, you can probably go a month before you should worry. If you have extra vitamins on hand, so much the better. You have to clear rubble, organize your neighbors, find more food and water, etc., etc., and before that, you have to ride out the storm. Eight hours on canned food is better than eight hours hungry.

Aurem non olet. Moneta non olet. Schuler hinted at that politely.

 

The argument for cash would be more persuasive if modern coinage was more interesting. Hard to believe, but the looks of US coinage hasn't changed much in nearly 80 years (same presidents and mostly the same reverse themes), and when they do change...we get a quarter program so dull few bother to collect the whole thing, and a penny reverse that looks like a subway token. And instead of focusing on Dollar coins and dropping the dollar bill, we have pallets of dollar coins that are wasting away in warehouses because no one cares.

 

A register doesn't have to open for cash to work. You might not get change, so you may have to take 5 dozen eggs.

 

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".
Henry Vl

Send money, guns and lawyers........I'll let you fellows seek that one out.

 

Dad, get me out of this!

 

Probably his second best song after Roland the headless Thompson gunner. Great singer and songwriter. Loved his offbeat sense of humor

 

It's not eight hours, it's endless days as I rotate old stock. I guess I could just view MREs as permanent. For that matter, I guess I could view some canned goods as permanent -- but I've had old canned food before, and yes, it's even worse than new canned food.

I guess the real prepper would carry a calorie reserve in the very most secure location -- around the belly. That does explain one aspect of the demographics at my local shows.

 

What? No love for Poor Poor Pitiful Me?

 

Cash will never die. All us Maine rednecks like to stash it guns ammo etc in our safes along with our coins wife’s jewelry etc. an awful lot of us like cash or checks not plastic. And I m pretty well set especially if it’s summer. Got the gardens for food m y diesel generator wood heat a gas grill a well I can get water out of in a bucket even if the generator isn’t running the pump and I can also siphon diesel out of my 40 gallon truck fuel tank. It’s been said before a country boy can survive and yes I have multiple rifles multiple shotguns and multiple 4 wheel drives

 

MRE's......shades of Burt Gummer.........

 

Good song as well as excitable boy

 

If I ever make it up to Maine (tourist), with my rig, I'll be holding a white flag.......promise not to shoot me Bill?

 

I would love to return to a world run by cash. I miss it. But I think there are too many powerful and influential people pushing electric money for things not to trend that way. As already mentioned, governments love to track purchases for reasons of commerce, profiling and ultimate control. Marketers and advertisers love it for targeting ads or knowing the effectiveness of their campaigns. Banks also probably like dealing with less cash. My bank has already removed all change counters from each of their branches. If I want to cash in coins I have to use my wife's bank.

Cashless societies also work better with fewer income and class discrepancies. More socially equal societies can ensure more equal access to electronic money. Sweden has a much flatter social structure, so going cashless would likely work better there than in countries with egregious inequalities such as the US. The United States' rigid class and social structure will probably ultimately keep it from going totally cashless, because a large section of the economy runs on cash due to large amounts of the population's lack of access to bank accounts or credit. But perhaps that could even get figured out in time.

I think the wealthier parts of the globe will drift towards the cashless side of the spectrum until some kind of power disruption demonstrates the considerable risks and gaps of digitizing everything. What would extended rolling blackouts do to digital currencies? What if one side of the country had access and the other didn't for an extended period of time? Mobile phones may reduce those risks, but batteries won't last forever. I guess we'll see.

 

After reading this thread I have a few thoughts on the issue:
1. In the event of a short to medium term blackout, I agree that cash would be extremely beneficial. The potential for that scenario is a good reason not to go cashless.
2. In the event of a long term blackout (EMP strike, solar storm etc.) we would be pretty much screwed. Instead of cash or even precious metals, survival would depend on access to weapons, ammo, and stores of food. The natural carrying capacity of North America without electricity and the modern technology that goes with it would be only a fraction of our current population. Natural selection would be the name of the game.
3. I agree that using cash is a good way of avoiding government surveillance and control. However, history is filled with examples of governments carrying out confiscatory currency reforms. The recent demonetization of 1000 rupee notes in India is a prime example. I’ll let the gold bugs take this point from here and run with it...

 

Not shooting yet. Though the quickest way for a tourist to piss me off is pull out in front of me and go 20 mph slower than I’m going. That or generally going considerably under the speed limit and not using your turn signals. I live here and work for a living and got places to go. If you’re on vacation time just pull over and let people by. One good thing about Texas they do that pull off and let you go

 

Need a love button not just a like button. Maiden rules!!

 

I think there’s a couple places I go that they probably wonder if I have a card as I always pay cash. If I’m not on the road and I go out to eat it’s almost always cash