Opinions much appreciated about this 1895S Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marine1, May 28, 2019.

  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Active Member

    My old eyes say DMPL64 but before I have the "Experts' grade it I thought someone here could advise.
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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Graffiti or bad scratches on the cheek, sorry.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Tooled and whizzed to add to all the other things this has had done to it. Sorry hard pass!
     
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  5. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    So far it's unanimous, save the fee.
     
  6. Eric Babula

    Eric Babula Active Member

    I agree. Pass on this one. Lots of face scratches, and hits. Maybe, if you can get it for F-12 money. But, I'd pass.
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    This coins condition makes me believe it was a belt buckel piece....then whizzed or tooled to try and save a lost.cause....it is a problem coin even at f 12 money it is a loss! One the "now owner" or present ....want's to make go away.....yes a 95s is a key coin but a key that has issues as this does one needs to walk away.
     
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  8. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Something just looks off to me, the mouth and nose area look wrong. Definitely not a gradable coin especially with all the scratches and 'graffiti' and rim damage.
    Definitely not a 64 and not a PL sorry OP
     
  9. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Yep that cheek graffiti kills all value in the coin. TPGs might say it damaged, cleaned, details. Meow would definitely not grade that coin.
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It will be a “no grade” situation if you send it to a reputable TPG. There are intentional marks on the cheek and the fields look unnatural as if they have been smoothed. I have seen 1895-S dollars with P-L or semi P-L fields, but this pieces looks odd.
     
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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    How can you call this DMPL based on these garbage pics?
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Here's a PCGS MS64 DMPL...
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Exactly...
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  14. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Pity. It's also a VAM 4 (S/Horizontal S). It would probably have to be worn down to VF before it would grade, given all those scratches.
     
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  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Overlit pictures attempting to hide issues. Hard pass for me (especially with the scratches).
     
  16. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Agree with the others. The stars are flat as well.
     
  17. Marine1

    Marine1 Active Member

    Thanks to all for the input, with the money I saved I'll get a new pair or glasses.
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Damaged, scratched, and ungradeabe as well. Looks cleaned also. A disaster coin. Why was that date not slabbed previously? Answer—because nobody would grade it. Looks like a Great Southern Coins set of pix.
     
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  19. Marine1

    Marine1 Active Member

    Hi Dude,
    As a follow up I sent the coin back with a note that it looked like a belt buckle Tom Mix wore in the 40s.
    After he got finished cussin me out he chided me for saying it was a 1940 instead of a 1895 and how did I know the name of the owner meaning "Tom Mix".
    After I got finished laughing I went and changed my shorts. This clown must have been a 22 year old Professor at Harvard !! "No offense Harvard grads".
    Personally I don't smoke the funny stuff.
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  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Good choice Marine semper fi and thanks for your service!
     
  21. Marine1

    Marine1 Active Member

    I appreciate that
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