1945P/S overdate Dd fs-801 Black beauty??

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  1. Kevin Trivett

    Kevin Trivett Member

    I mean, it speaks for itself.. Is it the fs-801? Awesome coin.
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Environmental Damage IMHO
     
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  4. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    definitely not a 'Black Beauty'..
     
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  5. Kevin Trivett

    Kevin Trivett Member

    Just toning, right? I've noticed coins with a clash of a dirty die tend to end this way, very dark.. Would that be from it being such a thin abrasion right on the surface of the coin making that thin metal material more prone to react to something as simple as air, ect? And tone faster or easier than a coin without would. I could be way left field on this, it's just my mind. Haha
     
  6. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Welcome to Coin Talk .This site shows photos of a FS-801 Jefferson nickel:
    http://varietyvista.com/04a JN DD Vol 1/DDRs 1945-P.htm
    This is not meant to criticize you but help you learn. Also your title :1945 P/S overdate Dd fs-801 Black beauty??". P/S would be an OMM (Over Mint Mark). An overdate is exactly that. One date punched over another date. You can find examples of each at:
    http://www.doubleddie.com/
    It's a great site to help you learn.
     
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  7. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    what are you talking about? there is no thin metal material, your coin is a silver war nickel, its an alloy of copper, silver and manganese and reacted to something that turned it dark, its not an FS-801 and worth its silver value only...
     
  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Because of the different composition of war nickels
    35% silver 56% copper 9% manganese as opposed to the normal
    75% copper 25% nickel, I agree with environmental damage.
    I haven't ever heard of a war nickel black beauty. (That would be cool.) Many are from the 1958 and 1959 (and other years) area.
    And yes there's no thin layer, the metals are mixed together to form an alloy.
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a black beauty, not a over mintmark, and not FS-801. What it is is a war nickel that is suffering from environmental damage.
     
  10. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    As all above.....
     
  11. Kevin Trivett

    Kevin Trivett Member

    I know what it is and what it is made of and I apologize if my question upset you, I maybe could've asked it better. The dd I was claiming I got from variety vista and the verity had a p over s RPM. My question It was based off my observations of other coins I have, that resembles this coin in color that I have studied, and what I observed is that they all have one thing in common, they were struck with a dirty die. So What I meant by thin metal was actually a light spread of a clash and it looked like thin metal that was sitting a top the coin.. My question was to ask basically if that could be the reason they tone so well.. I've seen coined in perfect shape but deeply colored in spots and those spots were clashes. I'm just always looking for wisdom. Thx enjoy your day

     
  12. Kevin Trivett

    Kevin Trivett Member

    Thank you.. I appreciate that really.. I put that leg work and learning and I got other war nickels and Buffalo nickels that I went throught the steps at varsity vista and confirmed them, they also have clashing and thats what was a good indicator that I had something, but it's hard getting the right pics on a black nickle. I'm just tryin to learn and will to too. Thx again, enjoy your day
     
  13. Kevin Trivett

    Kevin Trivett Member

    Ok, so rpm is Denver D/D but OMM, like here P/S.. A mint mark over a different Mint mark. That makes scene. Cool
     
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