GTG: German States 1614 Doppeltaler (Hall, Austria)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Seattlite86, May 20, 2019.

  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Nice original looking Taler. I am at AU55 to 58 I think a lot of the weakness is in the strike.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I'd not be surprised to see AU50.

    53? I'd be mildly surprised.

    I'm hedging my bets on the conservative side by saying XF45.

    I do think some of the flatness probably is strike-related, but I still don't see 55-58 there.

    If I'm wrong- and I could very well be- well, then good for @Seattlite86.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    With the photos provided I am having a hard time seeing surfaces and high points that have been disturbed that excessively. But this is not my area. I would defer to you if we were walking a show.
    @lordmarcovan
     
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  10. buckeye73

    buckeye73 Well-Known Member

    In the AU 50 to 53 range... go with AU53.
     
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  11. Robidoux Pass

    Robidoux Pass Well-Known Member

    This is my first response to a GTG on Coin Talk. I say AU-53
     
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  12. Zohar444

    Zohar444 Member

    XF-45 -> AU-50
     
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  13. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Active Member

    I’d call it XF45, possibly AU, although recognizing that at least SOME of the missing detail may result from a weak strike. Wouldn’t surprise me, though, if NGC — who had the coin in hand — graded it higher, but I’d be amazed at anything over AU55. Whatever the case congrats on a really handsome item.
    D.
     
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  14. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I'm not going to venture a guess on the grade as world coins are too far out of my wheelhouse. I just wanted to chime in to say that is a fantastic piece.
     
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  15. Rheingold

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  16. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    It’s not just a “world coin” but a hammered medieval coin. Not ancient, not modern either... pretty tough to grade when you usually look at half dollars and gold! I know the grade, that’s why I don’t want to comment any further.
     
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  17. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Hammered silver is tough to grade. I'm thinking we are seeing wear from striking. I'm in at MS63.
     
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  18. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    AU-53.
     
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  19. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I'll guess 55, maybe NGC was feeling generous that day.
     
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  20. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I'm at AU50...a beautiful piece.
     
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  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    AU 53

    ...I wouldn't be surprised if it went XF up to low AU; hopefully it worked out for the best!
     
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